Comments on: Tax Brinksmanship Hurts Business http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:49:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bruce U'Ren http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/#comment-36325 Bruce U'Ren Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:51:11 +0000 http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/?p=829#comment-36325 The greed of our governments elected officials, in the name of "needed services" must be stoped or greatly decreased. The budget wes set on expected revenue. Gasoline at the pump is 20%-25% more revenue than projected. Why can't they suspend the salestax for 3 months and bring tourestes to our state? Instead, they wring their hands and lement the terribal state of afairs. "wish we could something about the price of oil. DISCUSTING! The greed of our governments elected officials, in the name of "needed services" must be stoped or greatly decreased. The budget wes set on expected revenue. Gasoline at the pump is 20%-25% more revenue than projected. Why can't they suspend the salestax for 3 months and bring tourestes to our state? Instead, they wring their hands and lement the terribal state of afairs. "wish we could something about the price of oil. DISCUSTING!

]]> By: David Waymire http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/#comment-28984 David Waymire Thu, 22 May 2008 21:08:55 +0000 http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/?p=829#comment-28984 Sandosha: If I lost my job, and my skills were not wanted in the current economy, I would invest in retraining to get my job. If my kid left, I would ask why he or she left. There are plenty of jobs for college grads in Michigan -- the unemployment rate for them is nearly 0. Even the auto companies are looking for grads, and insurance companies in Mid-Michigan are looking to grow in other states in part becuase they can't find enough talent here in our state. So if my kid left, I would ask what he or she wants. And you would find that many of them want to live in an urban environment. Unfortunately, here in Michigan we've cut revenue sharing by 30 percent since 2000, so our cities are not nearly as attractive as other states. The bottom line: Since 2000, we have seen state personal income grow by 19.3 percent. State spending from state resources has grown by 10 percent (including the 2008 budget with the tax increases). It's not high taxes that are driving our youngsters away. It's a failure of the state (as a whole, not state government per se) to provide them with the optimistic outlook and services they desire. Sandosha:
If I lost my job, and my skills were not wanted in the current economy, I would invest in retraining to get my job.
If my kid left, I would ask why he or she left. There are plenty of jobs for college grads in Michigan -- the unemployment rate for them is nearly 0. Even the auto companies are looking for grads, and insurance companies in Mid-Michigan are looking to grow in other states in part becuase they can't find enough talent here in our state.
So if my kid left, I would ask what he or she wants.
And you would find that many of them want to live in an urban environment. Unfortunately, here in Michigan we've cut revenue sharing by 30 percent since 2000, so our cities are not nearly as attractive as other states.
The bottom line: Since 2000, we have seen state personal income grow by 19.3 percent. State spending from state resources has grown by 10 percent (including the 2008 budget with the tax increases). It's not high taxes that are driving our youngsters away. It's a failure of the state (as a whole, not state government per se) to provide them with the optimistic outlook and services they desire.

]]> By: sandosha http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/#comment-28957 sandosha Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:41 +0000 http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/?p=829#comment-28957 "Anti-tax radicals?" Let's quit the ad hominem fallacies and think of the state budget like a family budget. If your kids left your home to strike out on their own and you, unfortunately, also lost your job -- would you then decide to increase your family's food budget? No, you would cut back. It makes sense. But that's not what our legislators did -- they increased the budget -- at a time when Michigan kids were leaving the state to chase the jobs that were also leaving the state, making many who stay unemployed. "Anti-tax radicals?" Let's quit the ad hominem fallacies and think of the state budget like a family budget. If your kids left your home to strike out on their own and you, unfortunately, also lost your job -- would you then decide to increase your family's food budget? No, you would cut back. It makes sense. But that's not what our legislators did -- they increased the budget -- at a time when Michigan kids were leaving the state to chase the jobs that were also leaving the state, making many who stay unemployed.

]]> By: Cornelius Quinn http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/#comment-28926 Cornelius Quinn Thu, 22 May 2008 15:45:06 +0000 http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/?p=829#comment-28926 The recall efort of these "Anti Tax" radicals must be answered. I will work for Andy Dillon . Please contact me. derouch skould be recalled. The recall efort of these "Anti Tax" radicals must be answered. I will work for Andy Dillon . Please contact me.
derouch skould be recalled.

]]> By: wctaxpayer http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/tax-brinksmanship-hurts-business/#comment-28497 wctaxpayer Wed, 21 May 2008 06:23:42 +0000 http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/?p=829#comment-28497 How can you consistently ignore the correct solution to the problem. None of this would have been necessary if they did what they expected us to do and that is to cut our budget. By what right do you call the over 16,000 people who signed the petition to recall Speaker Dillon anti tax fringe. The reason we went from several to one recall was the money and the harassment used against us was so great. We had 90 days to collect signature and raise funds to get our message out. I understand you believe the only way is your way but I would think that maybe the vote of the people would be worth something to you. Rose Bogaert, Chair Wayne County Taxpayers Association How can you consistently ignore the correct solution to the problem. None of this would have been necessary if they did what they expected us to do and that is to cut our budget. By what right do you call the over 16,000 people who signed the petition to recall Speaker Dillon anti tax fringe.

The reason we went from several to one recall was the money and the harassment used against us was so great. We had 90 days to collect signature and raise funds to get our message out.

I understand you believe the only way is your way but I would think that maybe the vote of the people would be worth something to you.

Rose Bogaert, Chair
Wayne County Taxpayers Association

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