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	<title>Comments on: SPECIAL REPORT: Michigan&#039;s tax reform playbook</title>
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		<title>By: John Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution is staring us right in the face!

Michigan delays adopting the Michigan FairTax at its own peril. Adopt the FairTax now!

All of this other political posturing we are doing is as effective as re-aranging the furniture on the deck of the Titanic - we are going down by the bow!  How much more proof do we need that the existing system has failed?

While probably not the only solution we need, the FairTax is the largest and most effective single solution we can implement.

Look around you. Not just for a pleasant peninsula, but at the absence of Business! Our state suffers from a lack of business capital investment because our public policies repel it.  The FairTax will help make Michigan a Business Capital MAGNET again.

Look what the Movie Industry Subsidy has done just since April 08!  In 2007, movie companies spent $2 Million making movies in Michigan; in the last 9 months of 2008, they spent over $165 Million here!

We have proven that tax incentives work time and time again.  Instead of staying with the current (horribly divisive) practice of having our government pick Winners &amp; Losers, just imagine what this state, with our awesome workforce and solid infrastructure, would be like when we set business taxation to zero!!

The Michigan FairTax is, well, Fair.  Eminently Fair.  (And taxing a business is different than taxing a Business OWNER.  The FairTax taxes the Business Owner whenever he or she purchases anything for personal use.)  Everyone will pay in to the system - including drug dealers, car thieves and illegal immigrants!

It is past the time that we free up our wealth-creating engines in this state and let business entitities do what they are designed to do - create wealth for us all.  It is past the time for the Michigan FairTax.

Our recovery starts the day it becomes our taxing system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is staring us right in the face!</p>
<p>Michigan delays adopting the Michigan FairTax at its own peril. Adopt the FairTax now!</p>
<p>All of this other political posturing we are doing is as effective as re-aranging the furniture on the deck of the Titanic &#8211; we are going down by the bow!  How much more proof do we need that the existing system has failed?</p>
<p>While probably not the only solution we need, the FairTax is the largest and most effective single solution we can implement.</p>
<p>Look around you. Not just for a pleasant peninsula, but at the absence of Business! Our state suffers from a lack of business capital investment because our public policies repel it.  The FairTax will help make Michigan a Business Capital MAGNET again.</p>
<p>Look what the Movie Industry Subsidy has done just since April 08!  In 2007, movie companies spent $2 Million making movies in Michigan; in the last 9 months of 2008, they spent over $165 Million here!</p>
<p>We have proven that tax incentives work time and time again.  Instead of staying with the current (horribly divisive) practice of having our government pick Winners &amp; Losers, just imagine what this state, with our awesome workforce and solid infrastructure, would be like when we set business taxation to zero!!</p>
<p>The Michigan FairTax is, well, Fair.  Eminently Fair.  (And taxing a business is different than taxing a Business OWNER.  The FairTax taxes the Business Owner whenever he or she purchases anything for personal use.)  Everyone will pay in to the system &#8211; including drug dealers, car thieves and illegal immigrants!</p>
<p>It is past the time that we free up our wealth-creating engines in this state and let business entitities do what they are designed to do &#8211; create wealth for us all.  It is past the time for the Michigan FairTax.</p>
<p>Our recovery starts the day it becomes our taxing system.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Buchholtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Buchholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Solution to Michigan’s Economic Morass

There is a simple answer to Michigan&#039;s perennial tax revenue crisis.  It is called the MI FairTax, it solves our problem by eliminating the MBT and individual income tax and replacing the revenue with a loophole free retail sales tax.

Most all economists agree that business taxes are an impediment to business growth and individual income taxes are a disincentive to productive behavior (work, investing, saving, etc.).  While all taxes negatively impact business and productivity, consumption taxes are much less damaging to the economy.

As Dr. Alan Greenspan lectured the U.S. Congress, “Businesses do NOT pay taxes, only people pay taxes.”  What the Dr. was pointing out is that businesses treat taxes like any other cost of doing business, they pass them on to consumers in higher prices.

Michigan would go to the front of the line for attracting business by creating a tax environment that eliminated the ruse of business taxes.  We read how business tax abatements and/or reductions have been successfully used to attract particular businesses to a community.  What do you think would be the response if all state business taxes were eliminated permanently?

Michigan residents are sufficiently mature to understand the dishonest practice of hiding their taxes in the prices of the products they buy via the taxation of businesses.  They can see that the tax inflated prices their employer must charge for what the company sells places them at a competitive disadvantage.  They are aware that they are losing their jobs because of the dishonest practice of hiding taxes in prices.  They are now looking for tax reform to stop this practice as the major means to increase jobs in Michigan.

Many politicians and policy wonks fear that Michigan citizens are not able to understand that they pay all business taxes.  For this reason, the politicians and wonks offer proposals that continue to tax businesses, thereby, perpetuating the lie that business are paying taxes… when the result is that companies and jobs exit our state.  Trust the citizen and explain the simple economics at every opportunity… the public is smarter than you think!

Eliminating the income tax on individuals eliminates this great disincentive for productive behavior.  How can it make sense to penalize individuals via an income tax for doing things that contribute to society (work, investment, savings, etc.)  A retail sales tax is paid only when an individual takes from society

The Michigan FairTax is the solution.  Go to www.mifairtax.org for more information and research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Solution to Michigan’s Economic Morass</p>
<p>There is a simple answer to Michigan&#039;s perennial tax revenue crisis.  It is called the MI FairTax, it solves our problem by eliminating the MBT and individual income tax and replacing the revenue with a loophole free retail sales tax.</p>
<p>Most all economists agree that business taxes are an impediment to business growth and individual income taxes are a disincentive to productive behavior (work, investing, saving, etc.).  While all taxes negatively impact business and productivity, consumption taxes are much less damaging to the economy.</p>
<p>As Dr. Alan Greenspan lectured the U.S. Congress, “Businesses do NOT pay taxes, only people pay taxes.”  What the Dr. was pointing out is that businesses treat taxes like any other cost of doing business, they pass them on to consumers in higher prices.</p>
<p>Michigan would go to the front of the line for attracting business by creating a tax environment that eliminated the ruse of business taxes.  We read how business tax abatements and/or reductions have been successfully used to attract particular businesses to a community.  What do you think would be the response if all state business taxes were eliminated permanently?</p>
<p>Michigan residents are sufficiently mature to understand the dishonest practice of hiding their taxes in the prices of the products they buy via the taxation of businesses.  They can see that the tax inflated prices their employer must charge for what the company sells places them at a competitive disadvantage.  They are aware that they are losing their jobs because of the dishonest practice of hiding taxes in prices.  They are now looking for tax reform to stop this practice as the major means to increase jobs in Michigan.</p>
<p>Many politicians and policy wonks fear that Michigan citizens are not able to understand that they pay all business taxes.  For this reason, the politicians and wonks offer proposals that continue to tax businesses, thereby, perpetuating the lie that business are paying taxes… when the result is that companies and jobs exit our state.  Trust the citizen and explain the simple economics at every opportunity… the public is smarter than you think!</p>
<p>Eliminating the income tax on individuals eliminates this great disincentive for productive behavior.  How can it make sense to penalize individuals via an income tax for doing things that contribute to society (work, investment, savings, etc.)  A retail sales tax is paid only when an individual takes from society</p>
<p>The Michigan FairTax is the solution.  Go to <a href="http://www.mifairtax.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mifairtax.org</a> for more information and research.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Repley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Repley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute, if you make Michigan a business tax-free zone by enacting the Michigan FairTax - which ends corporate income and payroll taxes, what would the MI Chamber of Commerce have left to do??  Maybe that&#039;s why the State Chamber (and not many smaller Chambers) opposes the MI FairTax proposal! Citizens must wake up - we need the MI FairTax, yesterday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute, if you make Michigan a business tax-free zone by enacting the Michigan FairTax &#8211; which ends corporate income and payroll taxes, what would the MI Chamber of Commerce have left to do??  Maybe that&#039;s why the State Chamber (and not many smaller Chambers) opposes the MI FairTax proposal! Citizens must wake up &#8211; we need the MI FairTax, yesterday!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Babin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Babin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an answer!  http://www.mifairtax.org describes the MI FairTax.
It would remove the income tax and let people keep what they earn but pay tax on what they benefit from - expenditures.  It would also remove both the business Personal Property Tax and the MBT as they both become a hidden sales tax passed to the consumer in higher prices.  It&#039;s time we stop this false practice saying we tax businesses when businesses do NOT pay taxes, they only collect taxes we, as consumers, pay!

The Prebate allowance built into the MI FairTax covering poverty level expenditures makes it progressive, simple and fair to everyone.
The MI FairTax lets the public determine what the tax burden will be instead of the legislature!  Whether it goes higher or lower is up to the public!  The issue is less about the total burden as it is about the method we use to collect the revenue!  Our tax system, not the level of taxation, is killing our job growth!  It is the BEST in terms of economics and that creates jobs which should be our FIRST priority!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an answer!  <a href="http://www.mifairtax.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mifairtax.org</a> describes the MI FairTax.<br />
It would remove the income tax and let people keep what they earn but pay tax on what they benefit from &#8211; expenditures.  It would also remove both the business Personal Property Tax and the MBT as they both become a hidden sales tax passed to the consumer in higher prices.  It&#039;s time we stop this false practice saying we tax businesses when businesses do NOT pay taxes, they only collect taxes we, as consumers, pay!</p>
<p>The Prebate allowance built into the MI FairTax covering poverty level expenditures makes it progressive, simple and fair to everyone.<br />
The MI FairTax lets the public determine what the tax burden will be instead of the legislature!  Whether it goes higher or lower is up to the public!  The issue is less about the total burden as it is about the method we use to collect the revenue!  Our tax system, not the level of taxation, is killing our job growth!  It is the BEST in terms of economics and that creates jobs which should be our FIRST priority!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Creswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Creswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I see is more ways to suck more blood from us hard working people, the jackals in this state believe that what ever I earn belongs to them not me. I hope one day they all become a victim of an armed robbery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I see is more ways to suck more blood from us hard working people, the jackals in this state believe that what ever I earn belongs to them not me. I hope one day they all become a victim of an armed robbery.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Allen Blackburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Allen Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the most honest look at the real issues facing the State are located in www.mitaxtruth.com. Do nothing and watch people leaving the state in record numbers anyway. No one wants to see their taxes raised but we all want to be safe from crime, have nice parks, have a fire put out if it was our house on fire, etc. We just want the other guy to pay for it. It&#039;s time we all realized that if we want any of these benefits we all have to pay for it. If we don&#039;t start realizing this soon there will be little left of Michigan to fight over. The partisan politics is what is killing Michigan. These jokers spend all of their time fighting against each other instead of truly working anything out. It&#039;s time we vote all of these clowns out of office, get rid of term limits, let these newcomers gel to realize that compromise is the order of the day if Michigan is to be saved. I am fed up with the nonsense. We have made cuts in this state ever since Engler left office. It still has not led to any prosperity in Michigan. It is guaranteed that the existing policies will have cuts on the agenda for the next several administrations down the road. Michiganders; decide what kind of state you want. be ready to pay the bill in some fashion though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the most honest look at the real issues facing the State are located in <a href="http://www.mitaxtruth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mitaxtruth.com</a>. Do nothing and watch people leaving the state in record numbers anyway. No one wants to see their taxes raised but we all want to be safe from crime, have nice parks, have a fire put out if it was our house on fire, etc. We just want the other guy to pay for it. It&#039;s time we all realized that if we want any of these benefits we all have to pay for it. If we don&#039;t start realizing this soon there will be little left of Michigan to fight over. The partisan politics is what is killing Michigan. These jokers spend all of their time fighting against each other instead of truly working anything out. It&#039;s time we vote all of these clowns out of office, get rid of term limits, let these newcomers gel to realize that compromise is the order of the day if Michigan is to be saved. I am fed up with the nonsense. We have made cuts in this state ever since Engler left office. It still has not led to any prosperity in Michigan. It is guaranteed that the existing policies will have cuts on the agenda for the next several administrations down the road. Michiganders; decide what kind of state you want. be ready to pay the bill in some fashion though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Prairie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Prairie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your article informative. However, your commentary didn&#039;t address property taxes in Michigan.  As the owner of properties on the east shore and the west shore of the state, I am astounded at the inconsistencies in how property tax values are determined as well as the incredible burden on property owners should they want to challenge an assessment, especially in these times of dramatically declining values.  When people across the state are faced with shrinking incomes, crushing and, in some areas, growing property taxes can&#039;t be the answer.

Notwithstanding the diverse interests when it comes to taxation, I agree that it is time to completely revamp Michigan&#039;s ailing tax structure for all types of taxes, including property taxes.  Perhaps if we looked at the total tax burden the state&#039;s tax structure imposes on various groups we could have a more informed and meaningful discussion about tax policy, who pays, and who should pay.

Sign me,
A concerned citizen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your article informative. However, your commentary didn&#039;t address property taxes in Michigan.  As the owner of properties on the east shore and the west shore of the state, I am astounded at the inconsistencies in how property tax values are determined as well as the incredible burden on property owners should they want to challenge an assessment, especially in these times of dramatically declining values.  When people across the state are faced with shrinking incomes, crushing and, in some areas, growing property taxes can&#039;t be the answer.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding the diverse interests when it comes to taxation, I agree that it is time to completely revamp Michigan&#039;s ailing tax structure for all types of taxes, including property taxes.  Perhaps if we looked at the total tax burden the state&#039;s tax structure imposes on various groups we could have a more informed and meaningful discussion about tax policy, who pays, and who should pay.</p>
<p>Sign me,<br />
A concerned citizen</p>
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