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	<title>Comments on: SPECIAL REPORT: Getting Airport City off the ground</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond Opezzo</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/special-report-getting-airport-city-off-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-4383</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Opezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not consider utilizing Willow Run Airport as well by having a high speed rail system transporting freight cargo or passengers between terminals.
As I recall Kalitta Air Freight could land a Boeing 747 Air Freighter there. The infrastructure is there along with plenty of vacant land and existing factories. 
It would seem appropriate to link both airports together for your proposed venture.
Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not consider utilizing Willow Run Airport as well by having a high speed rail system transporting freight cargo or passengers between terminals.<br />
As I recall Kalitta Air Freight could land a Boeing 747 Air Freighter there. The infrastructure is there along with plenty of vacant land and existing factories.<br />
It would seem appropriate to link both airports together for your proposed venture.<br />
Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/special-report-getting-airport-city-off-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-1307</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, glad to see you added so much color to Item 0 of my Suggestions in the earlier posts.  Now that I think about it, even the name of the roads going into and out of DTE are named after government types; though I am sympathetic to the sentiment that many public servants are deserving of recognition for their leadership.  Michigan has always imagined itself as a leader in social justice (think Phillip Hart, Walter Reuther, etc.) and in a far more economically competitive world, we may not be able to afford social justice.  Its hard; it tugs at the heart when we have to blast through the evil sides of capitalism and socialism to get to innovation and equal opportunity

The article that got this discussion started is a &quot;top-down&quot; article.  The next step is for someone to investigate the decision making processes of the Aerotropolis&#039;s prospective customers. Learn what that customer wants and what they&#039;re willing to pay for it and see if a fair trade is possible.  We&#039;ll need to find that price point where exponentially distributed successful transactions can occur.  In other words, let&#039;s suspend our view of this Aerotropolis concept from the government-down, and spend some time looking at it from the bottom-up; transaction-by-transaction.

The Center for Michigan could raise the level of discussion by making those Aerotropolis reports available to the Average Bear right here.  Hopefully, all the money paid for those reports should contain in-depth informationa about the customer (not top-down government-hype)  Those reports should be public information, shouldn&#039;t they?  Maybe just a link to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, glad to see you added so much color to Item 0 of my Suggestions in the earlier posts.  Now that I think about it, even the name of the roads going into and out of DTE are named after government types; though I am sympathetic to the sentiment that many public servants are deserving of recognition for their leadership.  Michigan has always imagined itself as a leader in social justice (think Phillip Hart, Walter Reuther, etc.) and in a far more economically competitive world, we may not be able to afford social justice.  Its hard; it tugs at the heart when we have to blast through the evil sides of capitalism and socialism to get to innovation and equal opportunity</p>
<p>The article that got this discussion started is a &#034;top-down&#034; article.  The next step is for someone to investigate the decision making processes of the Aerotropolis&#039;s prospective customers. Learn what that customer wants and what they&#039;re willing to pay for it and see if a fair trade is possible.  We&#039;ll need to find that price point where exponentially distributed successful transactions can occur.  In other words, let&#039;s suspend our view of this Aerotropolis concept from the government-down, and spend some time looking at it from the bottom-up; transaction-by-transaction.</p>
<p>The Center for Michigan could raise the level of discussion by making those Aerotropolis reports available to the Average Bear right here.  Hopefully, all the money paid for those reports should contain in-depth informationa about the customer (not top-down government-hype)  Those reports should be public information, shouldn&#039;t they?  Maybe just a link to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Akers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Akers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a real problem in Michigan. It appears its leaders have great respect for unions and politicians (themselves)and little respect for real entrepreneurs, even Michigan&#039;s past industrial giants. Just go to the airport&#039;s baggage area. You&#039;ll find large honored pictures of local politicians, union figures and civil rights leaders. You don&#039;t see pictures of the people like Henry Ford who actually built the institutions that created Michigan&#039;s past fabulous wealth.

The lack of honor for those industrial leaders is symbolic of our real problems. For decades Michigan&#039;s political and union leaders have acted like parasites living off those institutions for sustenance. Unfortunately those leaders never heard of the fable of the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg. They&#039;ve overeaten and nearly killed the Goose.

Why would any visiting investor/entrepreneur look at that wall, shake his head and not think &quot;These people have not learned a thing. If I invested here and was successful, why should I think they would treat me differently than Henry Ford?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a real problem in Michigan. It appears its leaders have great respect for unions and politicians (themselves)and little respect for real entrepreneurs, even Michigan&#039;s past industrial giants. Just go to the airport&#039;s baggage area. You&#039;ll find large honored pictures of local politicians, union figures and civil rights leaders. You don&#039;t see pictures of the people like Henry Ford who actually built the institutions that created Michigan&#039;s past fabulous wealth.</p>
<p>The lack of honor for those industrial leaders is symbolic of our real problems. For decades Michigan&#039;s political and union leaders have acted like parasites living off those institutions for sustenance. Unfortunately those leaders never heard of the fable of the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg. They&#039;ve overeaten and nearly killed the Goose.</p>
<p>Why would any visiting investor/entrepreneur look at that wall, shake his head and not think &#034;These people have not learned a thing. If I invested here and was successful, why should I think they would treat me differently than Henry Ford?&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Flights in/out of DTW are relatively smooth compared with DEN and AMS -- a selling point that should not be overlooked.  A lot of people are still uncomfortable with flying.  With so many face-to-face meetings occuring in virtual offices at airports now, we should move on this fast.

A few items for the Suggestion Box:

0. Stop calling all these economic stimulus initiatives &quot;jobs&quot; initiatives. Call them business stimulus initiatives.  Admittedly, there is something a little Orwellian about this suggestion.  Michigan generally, and southeastern Michigan, in particular, has more baggage in this regard because of its alignment with unions.  You cannot love jobs and hate job creaters.  Prepare the foundation for profitable businesses and the jobs will follow.


1. The price point for money coming in is going to have to be a near-perfect shot.  We&#039;ll have to figure out a way to compete with other aerotropolis&#039;.  We&#039;ll need to offer a 25% percent price advantage at the same quality level as our competitors.  Even AMS has had its competitive pressures lately.  Somebody needs to look at the total cost of face-to-face meetings including the relative cost of flying into nearby airports.  A tricky optimization calculation.

2. The westbound I-94 corridor between Ann Arbor and DTW ought to be developed with a real-time land transportation system.  Many of our overseas friends have spoken of the convenience of UM&#039;s proximity to an international airport.  Windsor would be a great eastbound destination were it not for the sadness of Detroit.

3. No serious attempt at branding can be understaken without dealing the very word &quot;Detroit&quot;.  Sorry to say.  Not in our lifetimes will we see a restoration of its pre-1960&#039;s image.  No serious money will flow into an aerotropolis carrying Detroit in its name.  By serious money, I mean outstate financing (bonds, PIPEs, etc.) - not instate direct investment underwritten by Michigan financing authorities intending to prop up the name.  Consider &quot;Great Lakes International Airport&quot;.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Flights in/out of DTW are relatively smooth compared with DEN and AMS &#8212; a selling point that should not be overlooked.  A lot of people are still uncomfortable with flying.  With so many face-to-face meetings occuring in virtual offices at airports now, we should move on this fast.</p>
<p>A few items for the Suggestion Box:</p>
<p>0. Stop calling all these economic stimulus initiatives &#034;jobs&#034; initiatives. Call them business stimulus initiatives.  Admittedly, there is something a little Orwellian about this suggestion.  Michigan generally, and southeastern Michigan, in particular, has more baggage in this regard because of its alignment with unions.  You cannot love jobs and hate job creaters.  Prepare the foundation for profitable businesses and the jobs will follow.</p>
<p>1. The price point for money coming in is going to have to be a near-perfect shot.  We&#039;ll have to figure out a way to compete with other aerotropolis&#039;.  We&#039;ll need to offer a 25% percent price advantage at the same quality level as our competitors.  Even AMS has had its competitive pressures lately.  Somebody needs to look at the total cost of face-to-face meetings including the relative cost of flying into nearby airports.  A tricky optimization calculation.</p>
<p>2. The westbound I-94 corridor between Ann Arbor and DTW ought to be developed with a real-time land transportation system.  Many of our overseas friends have spoken of the convenience of UM&#039;s proximity to an international airport.  Windsor would be a great eastbound destination were it not for the sadness of Detroit.</p>
<p>3. No serious attempt at branding can be understaken without dealing the very word &#034;Detroit&#034;.  Sorry to say.  Not in our lifetimes will we see a restoration of its pre-1960&#039;s image.  No serious money will flow into an aerotropolis carrying Detroit in its name.  By serious money, I mean outstate financing (bonds, PIPEs, etc.) &#8211; not instate direct investment underwritten by Michigan financing authorities intending to prop up the name.  Consider &#034;Great Lakes International Airport&#034;.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: rer</title>
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		<dc:creator>rer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting take on the recession. You should join a &lt;a href=&quot;“fightagainstrecession.com”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recession forum &lt;/a&gt; or something and have your great say. I&#039;ll follow this blog, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting take on the recession. You should join a <a href="“fightagainstrecession.com”" rel="nofollow">recession forum </a> or something and have your great say. I&#039;ll follow this blog, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: re</title>
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		<dc:creator>re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colorado can become one of the next most-recovered states in the fight against recession. I hope it gets better than this mere prediction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colorado can become one of the next most-recovered states in the fight against recession. I hope it gets better than this mere prediction.</p>
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