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By The Center for Michigan - May 10, 2007

In February of 2007, we asked "How do we best transform the size and role of government, and how best to pay for it?" We received some great answers and didn't want to lose all the ideas generated when we moved into our new web site.

We've archived the posts here and we ask you to respond with your thoughts on this page.

Chuck Fellows (guest)
05/10/2007 5:38 PM  
To All, please do your homework:Lean thinking. www.lean.org VALUE STREAM MAPPINGDefine the value stream in a process - get rid of all steps that do not contribute value - to the customer (if you take the time to identify the customer).Applies to health care, education and government. Forty to seventy percent waste reduction opportunity. You know, real money...OR be a "wuss" like many highly paid executives who whine "That's too hard." (on their egos)OR become part of the group history will identify as "Stuck on Stupid." (those afraid of change)OR become part of the solution.
 
 
John Gisler (guest)
05/10/2007 8:20 PM  
I was disappointed to see this week's communque omit any mention of the FairTax joint resolution introduced last Thursday, May 3, by Fulton Sheen. The FairTax could be a significant option to eliminating Michigan's on-going revenue difficulties. It's certainly worthy of a mention!
 
 
jae123 (guest)
05/10/2007 10:05 PM  
The state income tax should be graduated. Lowered for the lower incomes, about the same for middle income, and raised for the upper income levels. If this is revenue neutral, increase the sales tax on non essential purchases and remove it from essentials such as soap and detergents.
 
 
Richard Thibodeau (guest)
05/11/2007 8:39 AM  
Michigan needs to do a much better job of "owning" our largest city- Detroit-
We need to package all that Detroit has to offer and do a much better job of marketing its great historic, music,cultural and people assets. Too often now,
people coming into Michigan make a bee-line to other parts of the State, usually completely by-passing Detroit. Detroit also needs to establish an international youth hostel, like exist in most world class cities in the world. Lets roll out the red carpet to
these gutsy young people from throughout the world who are motivated to come taste our music and they'll go back home and tell their friends, etc. that Detroit is
VERY VISITABLE!
 
 
John K. Harrison (guest)
05/18/2007 3:43 PM  
Business "right sizes," downsizes if necessary, to fit the market and available revenue. Michigan government needs to do the same. A zero budget and a prioity list would be beginning. I suspect many state services and involvements would depart the scene and I doubt the departures would include protection of the population. The state, unfortunately, doesn't presently have the leadership for such an undertaking. Perhaps one day it will and some confidence in state government will be restored. Until that happens we will need to listen to the everybody else is at fault rhetoric.
 
 
johno (guest)
05/18/2007 4:34 PM  
The recent Detroit News article bashing public employees for participating in a fair and funded pension plan is but another example of media exploitation of our problems. This to stir divisions among all of us and hopefully destroy the quality of our lives that extremists can't stand.The public employee pension system in Michigan unlike haelth benefits is a Statuatarily funded and employee contribution system. The recent all time highs in the stock market have left the system flush with receivable income to payout reasonable and nationally competitive cost and benefit returns,

The idea that a worker who contributes all of his career to a pension system that is overseen by statuatory and legislative regulations for benefits ,actuarials and contributions is now some how the cause of Michigan economic plight is ludicrous and shameful. French the author is not only poorly informed but a pawn of forces bent on deceiving the public as to the source of these concerns . Shame on him and shame on us as citizens if we take the bait.

 
 
Jim Carr (guest)
05/23/2007 11:53 AM  
Public pensions, whether designed for state employees or public school teachers, are the results of many years of collective bargaining by the unions representing these two segments of public employees. Any attempt to interfere with these pensions must be designed to avoid affecting previous contract agreements. If this is not done, then the full faith and credit of both the state and every school district in the state will be challenged by current and retired employees.Efforts should be made to reduce the number of school districts and the proportioned administrators for teaching staff. Another area of questionable accountability is the intrascholastic athletics which finds teams driving miles to play an opponent. Such trips are expensive and do little to add to the skill and experience of local school teams. Local areas could form a travel team, at the expense of the players and their parents, much like Little League and Hockey sports participants do now. Most of the coaches in these sports are parents, devoting their time and not being paid with dollars designed for education.
 
 
Bob Van Bemmelen (guest)
05/23/2007 12:22 PM  
I recently sent this e-mail to Mr. Powers and Mr. Bebow and upon reply Mr. Bedow suggested I put it on the forum. The e-mail follows except for the introduction.Some time ago I had an idea that I felt had some merrit in regards to promoting Michigan, not only on a local level but internationally as well.The idea that I have involves participation of the State at some level, but primarily between private Michigan businesses/corporations and the Michigan citizenry.The idea came to me while I was at a political conference in Utah and one of the participants from Idaho pasted out sheets of mailing labels with a promo message on it concerning the parent organization. It was suggested that we put these labels on the back or the front of every letter, bill, envelope that we mailed out. The result would be that with every piece of mail that we mailed a promo message would pass by someone's eyes, maybe many eyes, communicating whatever information was printed on the label. More often than not, it would be seen by someone who had no previous knowledge of the organization we were trying to promote. I know it works because I had an experience at the post office when I went to mail a letter where the postal clerk noticed the label and asked me a question about it.The thought occurred to me that this would be a good way to promote Michigan to the "world".The problem was, how would one get these stickers to every citizen in Michigan and then get them to use them on every envelope they mailed out. Once again I had a thought. Frequently I/we get from various organizations who are soliciting donations, personal address stickers with our name and address on them as a token of their appreciation for the contribution they hope we will make to their organization. I must say, I do use those address labels. It saves me a lot of time writing out my address every time I mail something.So..... why not marry the two, personalized address labels and "Promote Michigan" stickers and mail them out free of charge to everyone on the tax rolls or some such mailing list in Michigan. That way, every time someone uses an address label, hopefully they would attach a Michigan promo sticker as well. You ask, "Who would fund this endeavor?" I suggest it be funded by private volunteer contributions from Michigan Businesses (small or large). Besides taking a positive step to help promote the Great State of Michigan in which they reside, they could get some kind of tax credit to sweeten the deal. A web site could be set up and when the "occupant" ran out of labels/stickers and they could order more at a nominal fee to cover ongoing costs.Recently, I saw in the Free Press, I believe, a contest that was being run for people to submit memorable photos of Michigan with various prizes being awarded. One possibility would be to use some of these photos on one end of the sticker with some catchy phrase to the right of the photo. I believe, several years ago the Ann Arbor News ran a similar contest for "Michigan Mottos".They say "Perception is Reality". If we perceive Michigan as a dying state because the auto industry here is in the tank, then we will communicate that to everyone else in one way or another. However, if this program (as "out-of-the-box" it is and "desperate times demand desperate action) is successful, and I believe it will be, it will generate a lot of enthusiasm for what we have and pull us out of the despair that so many people find themselves in for one reason or another. It also gives everyone and opportunity to do "something" to help turn things around and change everyone's perception of Michigan.One final note. I grew up in Muskegon and at one time it was home to numerous large corporations: Norge, Continental Motor Corp, Lakey Foundry, Campbell Wyatt and Canon and others. When Norge left to head south for cheaper labor it wasn't long before the others went "south" as well. I remember everyone complaining, "what are we going to do now?" Meanwhile, Grand Haven, Holland, Saugatuck, etc. began to capitalize on what they "had" (beautiful beaches, ports for welcoming all those pleasure boats, etc.), and not lament about what they didn't. So... they grew and grew. Muskegon? I think they are beginning to turn things around, but it has taken many, many years to see what was in their own back yard. Infact, Muskegon was once known as the Lumber Queen of the World. I would like to see them do something yet with that Lumbering era theme (I am digressing here). The point is, Michigan probably put to many eggs in the auto basket and now its time to focus on what we have and not on what we are losing. Remember, Perception Is Reality. If we change the perception we won't change the reality, we will just see it where it has always been.Regards,Bob Van Bemmelen(734) 434-5984rvanbem@hotmail.com
 
 
Tom Zelinski (guest)
05/25/2007 6:04 PM  
IF Michigan's governor, assistant governor, legislators and appointed bureaucrats will volunteer for a decrease in pay, benefits and allowances, and
IF the administration will seriously cut the fat out of state government, and
IF the unions that represent state employees will agree to concessions, and
IF the governor and the legislature will get the courage to tackle systemic problems such as the pension and health care system for teachers and others,
THEN I and a lot of other citizens will support tax increases.....of course if all of the above happen, then we probably have surpluses instead of deficits.
 
 
JJ (guest)
06/03/2007 2:59 AM  
Regarding the statement :"Half of all American parents recognize a higher education as crucial to a successful future - a record high, according to a new report from the nonpartisan Public Agenda think tank. Only 27 percent of Michigan parents share that sentiment, according to polling that's almost too sad to believe."

Perhaps only 27% of MI parents can afford a higher education for their children. To admit it's crucial when you can't afford it, is an admission that you know your childs future is doomed. No one wants to admit that or see it happen.

 
 
GraceAndPeace (guest)
06/03/2007 12:43 PM  
I find it intriguing that you and others of the "Cut and Run", "Shrink government small enough so it can be drowned in a bathtub" philosophy place the blame on unions and those they represent. State employees already took cuts in health care benefits and wages. In 2000, under the Republican leadership, the State Legislature gave themselves a 38%,$21,000 salary increase. The governor already took a cut in pay. The Republican controlled legislature chose not to participate.Serious cuts have been made in state government. There are 9000 fewer state employees than there were in the last year of the Engler administration. If you have to work with the old FIA or Department of Corrections you have seen caseloads increase and caseworkers dwindle. Programs that were designed to keep people out of prison have been cut to the bone and recidivism is on the rise.The bipartisan income tax was instituted during the Milliken administration. Engler cut it and now it needs to be restored to percentage that it was under Milliken. The key to business profits is sales. Because of the lack of leadership and a coherent policy to deal with the future, the automobile industry continues to lose market share and that affects every aspect of government. Since the Engler years we have given tax cut upon tax cut to businesses and the most wealthiest class and have very little to show for it.Since 1999 the number of children living in poverty has risen dramaitically. Health care costs for everyone, not just state employees, have gone through the roof. There are systemic problems with the way we do health care here in America and very few leaders want to deal with it. Insurance companies and others who profit from our sicknesses must be removed from the health care equation.I could go on and on, but beware of the government shrinkers. Their almost gleeful anticipation to partake in the violent end of government protection for the masses is a danger to us all.
 
 
Mark H Clevey, MPA
Posts:1
06/05/2007 3:03 PM  

Medal of Freedom Winner John Gardner, in his insightful work titled "Building Community" notes that, "Where community exists it confers upon its members identify, a sense of belonging, a measure of security." Related to this finding, Raymond W. Smilor, noted author and honored entrepreneur, also notes in his work Entrepreneurship and Community Development" that, "Entrepreneurship can help confer identify, belonging and security not only on those who elect to start and grow enterprises, but also on those who join them in that effort and on the wider environment in which they operate."

As we ponder how to conduct Community Development and its relationship to economic development, it is imperative that Michigan become well versed in the NEXUS between a "Sense of Community" and Entrepreneurship. Before we invest in building communities designed to foster economic development, we need to determine exactly what small busienss entrepreneurs - in high economic and social multiplier industries- actually need and want with regard to working conditions, lifestyle, environment, housing and other related factors. We can afford a "build it they will come" mentality any more. We need to build our communities around entrepreneurs rather than our entrepreneurs around our communities. Any revenue sharing formula that does not include entrepreneur creation, retention, expansion and attraction metricsis simply out of step with economic realitiy of the knowledge-based global economy.

Mark H. Clevey
Executive Director
Small Business Foundation of Michigan

 
 
Mark.Clevey (guest)
06/11/2007 10:02 AM  
As a strong advocate for entrepreneurship, I believe we can best transform Michigan's government by making it more entrepreneurial. For example, the Small Business Association of Michigan has called for the enactment of a new "Entrepreneur Impact Statement" requirement on all new legislation, rules and regulations. This requirement would force policy makers to actually consider and acknowledge the impact of their actions on those companies best positioned to transform Michigan's economy: entrepreneurs. It will also provide a mechanism to rationalize the role/burden of government in accordance with the needs of the governed. For example, with regard to funding for higher education, it would change the focus from funding "process" (e.g., research and eevelopment is the conversion of money into knowledge) to "outcomes" (e.g., commercialization of the conversion of knowledge back into money). Finally, a robust Entrepreneurial Economy (characterized by the robust creation, retention, expansion and attraction of growth-oriented firms) would generate sufficient revenue to pay for the government that it deserves.
 
 
Mark.Clevey (guest)
06/14/2007 1:45 PM  
Dear Center for Michigan:In our annual Michigan Entrepreneurship Score Card we find that Michigan ranks 8th. in the nation with regard to education and workforce development. While this is clearly one of our greatest assets, we still can do better. This article by Phil Power shows that "social entrepreneurship" can make a measurable difference in our education programs. We can further improve this with world-class small business entrepreneurship and intrepreneurship programs. We need to provide K-12 students with a solid preparation and pathway into worldclass Entrepreneurship DEGREE programs at our colleges and universities. Students interested in these programs should get full-ride scholorships. Those who graduate from these programs should get priority when seeking business incentives, tax-breaks, low interest loans, insurance, busienss services, employee training, university technology transfer, parking spots and real estate. Fostering increased Small Business Entrepreneurship, Social Entrepreneurship and Intrapreneurship should be EVERYONE'S priority in Michigan.

Mark H. Clevey
Vice President for Entrepreneurship
Small Business Association of Michigan

 
 
Richard G. Thibodeau (guest)
06/14/2007 3:09 PM  
So often, the bottom line for Michigan's economic vitality is to make Detroit and its immediate surrounding suburbs real powerhouses of quality of life, education excellence, etc; I think we are still stuck on more rounds of collaborative meetings,
seminars, and the "improving race relations industry". Certainly improving our schools is a must, so why don't we get real gutsy and do something that's do-able right now,
like recruiting qualified and motivated senior citizens to be a teacher's aide /
"education coach/mentor for every classroom in Detroit Metro. The seniors are out there. We just have to ask and not worry so much if we're imposing something outside on our teachers. These seniors aren't from the "outside", they're part of the community and I think many of them would step up to the plate and have lots to offer.
I'd like to hear what are the negatives of this idea. So many of these seniors would bring to their classrooms their skills knowledge, their hobbies, their personal wisdom and ethics and in the vast majority of cases the project would be the scene of some really super "inter-generational sharing" for a GOOD CAUSE- I.E MORE KIDS GRADUATING AND MORE KIDS REALLY LEARNING. And in the process, the vast majority of the kids, even the discipline problem ones, will come to respect and cherish these seniors. Again, I would appreciate hearing the "no, this isn't practical" reactions,
or any other feedback.
 
 
Out2Trip (guest)
06/14/2007 3:45 PM  
Bringing up the teachers. Why not make testing for teachers mandatory? You have someone who majored in biology teaching history etc. Why is the MEA and the teachers' union so opposed to getting rid of unqualified, inept, basically useless people? Why not a test for teachers to make sure they actually know what they are teaching? The kids are the most important part of a classroom right? We say everything is for the students, but the MEA fights against getting rid of unqualified teachers that are actually hurting our kids, why is that? Until the teachers' union stops supporting inept teachers and allow them to be fired, nothing is going to change. You can throw all the money you want into the school system and it won't change anything.
 
 
Administrator Account
Posts:5
06/22/2007 11:21 AM  

Sorting Chaos from Opportunity:

Addressing Michigan's Public Employee Health Benefit Costs

Si Nahra, Ph.D., President, Health Decisions, Inc.

Crisis carries with it chaos and opportunity. The trick is to tell them apart. Michigan's current public sector financing crisis offers ample examples. One such example is the debate over public employee health benefit costs, focused primarily on schools and MESSA.

MESSA, the health plan administrative arm of the Michigan Education Association, has much to do with chaos but nothing to do with opportunity. The focus should be on school districts and other public entities and not MESSA. Contrary to prevailing rhetoric, school districts' access to health plan data is exactly the same with or without MESSA. If a district is insured, they can get enrollment data since they are the source. They cannot get claims data. This is standard in the industry and has nothing to do with MESSA. If a district self-funds health benefits, it too has its enrollment data; it also has a legal obligation to oversee plan claims data. Even though MESSA may put up impediments, a district that self-funds can and will prevail and get claims data if it tries. There is ample precedent for this already around the State's school districts.

If the goal is to reduce benefit costs and facilitate competitive bidding, the opportunity is found not with claims data but with enrollment. Enrollment data are universally available and readily accessible. It is more important than claims for bidding purposes. The market will return bids without claims data but not without enrollment data. It is also the source for the most direct and permanent form of benefit savings, the elimination of duplicate or overlapping coverage.

Schools and other public entities (villages, townships, cities, counties, commissions, universities, and prisons) in similar communities share coverage of families in that community but have had no way to identify that shared coverage and take steps to streamline and minimize any duplication or overlap. In the past, such efforts were stymied by lack of comparable data and privacy concerns. However, current technologies make such sharing simple, affordable, and safe.

Leaving the technical explanations for another time, let's consider how such an effort might get underway. In doing this we want to stress what can be done in the next three to six months and eschew any attempt at speculating about what "could be" or advocating for what "should be".

Efforts to exploit the enrollment data opportunity can begin at any time in any community through voluntary agreement among the public entities in that community. (The State as employer may want to show its support for such efforts by being a party to the voluntary agreements, but such participation is not required to begin). Interested public entities in a community need only agree to procedures for sharing enrollment information and policies for minimizing duplication and overlap. Any technology or implementation costs could be covered by modest grants or funded with proceeds from savings. Legislative involvement, if needed at all, would only be relevant if these voluntary arrangements proved popular and then only to facilitate the voluntary effort on the part of public sector employers.

This cooperative effort to minimize coverage duplication and overlap also has financial, practical and symbolic value. To gauge the financial opportunity, consider Grand Rapidsas an example. In the greater Grand Rapidscommunity public employment exceeds 10,000 (with public K-12 schools about 1,500 of that total). Given a public workforce of that size, a one-time savings of $2.5 million can be expected with annual savings of $1.0 million. Multiply this by like-sized and larger communities across Michiganand some sense of the opportunity for public sector savings comes into focus.

The practical value of organizing public sector health benefit enrollment is that it moves the issue of competitive bidding these benefits from the realm of partisan debate to an option that can be acted on by any involved and willing public employer. With validated enrollment facts in hand, public entities, individually and collectively, can request and receive bids from the full array of health benefit insurers and administrators.

The symbolic value of this cooperative effort should not be overlooked. At numerous sessions sponsored by The Center for Michigan, the topic of moving away from an entitlement mentality in Michiganhas come up. This sharing by public entities and their covered members to minimize benefit duplication and overlap is consistent with such a change in attitude. The public sector can lead by example.

This small and simple act of sharing enrollment data is technically feasible. All that is required is the leadership and will to do it. Such a step may not be the final step in the journey to address public employee benefit costs. But it is a start towards capitalizing on an opportunity while skirting chaos. In the process, Michigancan again lay claim to being a State that leads, even in midst of crisis.

Si Nahra, PhD, President, Health Decisions, Inc.

Si Nahra founded Health Decisions, Inc. in 1985. He is a respected advisor to employers, insurers, heath maintenance organizations, self-funded plan administrators and community-based coalitions.

Contact him via e-mail si@healthdecisions.com .

 
 
Richard G. Thibodeau (guest)
06/22/2007 12:17 PM  
[Wow- looks like there's hardly any feedback appearing in these "guest replies" Where is everyone?Richard Thibodeau
 
 
Brian Metz (guest)
06/22/2007 12:39 PM  
Dear Mr. Power,I am writing in regards to you column about "Airport City". I would like to take the opportunity to explain something that directly affects jobs in Michigan and most people are not aware of. I think you may find it of interest, so please take a moment to read what I have to say. With your influence, perhaps something could be done to help Michigan's economy.

Let me preface by saying I am the Logistics Manager for an international company in Southeast Michigan. In your column, "Airport City Could Become Reality" (June 21, 2007), you stated that Chicago was the nearest airfreight complex. This is not true. Many local companies have freight sent directly to Metro Airport. Metro has its own customs clearance capability and international freight flows through the airport daily. However, many Metro Detroit companies route their freight through Chicago for a very important reason: US Customs will clear freight in Chicago on the weekends. This does not occur at Metro (or at Willow Run for that matter). And it does not cost a whole lot more to have the freight trucked in from Chicago.

Customs brokers in Chicago routinely recruit local companies to have their freight routed through an area outside Michigan just for this reason. And they succeed. I personally have freight flown in to Chicago all the time. I would rather that the work went to local companies, but what choice do I have when I need the freight as fast as possible? Thousands of packages, pallets, and crates destined for Michigan get routed through Chicago every day because it saves time. Millions of dollars leave Michigan every year and go to freight companies and customs brokers in Illinois instead. I personally have spent upwards of $300,000 with Chicago freight companies just this year alone. When you take into account all the other businesses that do the same, hundreds (if not thousands) of jobs are located elsewhere because of this.

Let me put it this way. I'm near Detroit and I have freight routed to an airport 250 miles away. A 250 mile radius covers a large portion of the Midwest. If Metro could have US Customs clear freight on weekends, many companies would route their freight through Detroit instead. It only makes sense.

I would ask you to please use your influence to make some of our elected officials in Michigan aware of this. A little thing like having US Customs work on Saturdays at Metro could add up to thousands of jobs in Michigan. Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Brian Metz

 
 
Chuck (guest)
06/22/2007 4:07 PM  
What exactly is wrong with a 'part time - term limited' legislature?That's the type of government envisioned by the founding fathers.It is not leadership or skill sets that are lacking. Neither will appear if the purpose of the enterprise remains unidentified.If it takes years to learn the rules of a legislature and years to establish relationships (with who?) it is the rules and the relationships that require clarification and simplification - not more of the same "career politics" that have repeatedly failed to govern effectively.The "Civil Service" knows the rules and has the relationships necessary to accomplish the tasks of governance. And history shows that the civil servants outlast even world wars, usually intact (unless you are a career politician who thinks an election represents democracy and eliminates by force and death the current civil service of a nation), and they really know how to get things done, even when political leadership is lacking.Michigan's schools. It is not about the adults or their expectations - it is about creating learning opportunities for the children. Children are born knowing how to learn. Don't you wonder why so many are unable to learn (like those that wish to return to the land of career politics) after enduring our system of education.Dear citizens - it's not about you - it is about the children. Kids don't need to be packed with adult generated facts - they simply need the opportunity to use the learning skills they already have.Here's some leadership for politics and education - "Change your paradigm - now!"
 
 

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