Comments on: Eliminate high school graduation to boost expectations http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/culture-change-to-boost-expectations-of-students-eliminate-high-school-graduation-as-a-rite-of-passage/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:58:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: J. P. Charrier http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/culture-change-to-boost-expectations-of-students-eliminate-high-school-graduation-as-a-rite-of-passage/#comment-59237 J. P. Charrier Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:26:44 +0000 http://69.5.25.110/blog/culture-change-to-boost-expectations-of-students-eliminate-high-school-graduation-as-a-rite-of-passage/#comment-59237 I thought one of the main driving forces for The Center for Michigan was not following the same failed paths of the past. By extending the current educational system to K-14 or 16 we would be repeating the same failures. The educational system of Michigan, as well as the United States, has two major flaws; 1. It is run by bureaucratic government agencies. 2. The aforementioned agencies are influenced by a unionized organization with the purpose of self-preservation, not education. I could go into a longer discussion on the subject and present my take on the facts as they stand. Instead, I would ask those who read this to come to their own conclusions by doing dome research on the following questions: 1. Where does all of the money ear-marked for education actually get spent? How much of it actually reaches students? 2. To what level are children being educated by the current system? Are they being taught to reason or regurgitate? 3. What is the purpose of the National Education Association? 4. Are literacy levels better today than they were 100 years ago? I thought one of the main driving forces for The Center for Michigan was not following the same failed paths of the past. By extending the current educational system to K-14 or 16 we would be repeating the same failures. The educational system of Michigan, as well as the United States, has two major flaws;
1. It is run by bureaucratic government agencies.
2. The aforementioned agencies are influenced by a unionized organization with the purpose of self-preservation, not education.

I could go into a longer discussion on the subject and present my take on the facts as they stand. Instead, I would ask those who read this to come to their own conclusions by doing dome research on the following questions:

1. Where does all of the money ear-marked for education actually get spent? How much of it actually reaches students?

2. To what level are children being educated by the current system? Are they being taught to reason or regurgitate?

3. What is the purpose of the National Education Association?

4. Are literacy levels better today than they were 100 years ago?

]]> By: Val Norberry http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/culture-change-to-boost-expectations-of-students-eliminate-high-school-graduation-as-a-rite-of-passage/#comment-56789 Val Norberry Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:10:17 +0000 http://69.5.25.110/blog/culture-change-to-boost-expectations-of-students-eliminate-high-school-graduation-as-a-rite-of-passage/#comment-56789 Journey-man degree, not college. Mother's helper, not college. I wonder if we need to go back in time in order to recover some good things. My Amish friends only complete the 8th grade and they are good business people. Mainly because they have learned the valuable business practice of keeping their word. Back in the 1400's and 1600's people used to get engaged when they were like 16. So what's wrong with that (for girls?) since the HS kids are messing around anyway at that age? What's wrong with apprenticeships for the boys and mother's helper positions for girls of HS age. Give em credit for it, help them to graduate. I say that's practical education. Enough of these programs where the kids carry around an egg all day. I don't think so. Enough condoms on bananas, I mean, look around you, who's got nice big cushy houses and who're living in trailers? The Amish have really nice houses and many Englishers live in trailers or apts. (like myself, apt). Anyway, I think our educational system really needs to be revamped. I'm not saying being Amish is perfect, but I think there are lessons to be learned among us. Let's listen, let's learn. Let's learn to lean on God, not mankind. I've seen some pretty dead end programs like Job-Corps where the girls are like a piece of meat in that environment unless they have a boyfriend to protect them. Let's "use our heads" as my grandmother would say. Journey-man degree, not college. Mother's helper, not college. I wonder if we need to go back in time in order to recover some good things. My Amish friends only complete the 8th grade and they are good business people. Mainly because they have learned the valuable business practice of keeping their word. Back in the 1400's and 1600's people used to get engaged when they were like 16. So what's wrong with that (for girls?) since the HS kids are messing around anyway at that age? What's wrong with apprenticeships for the boys and mother's helper positions for girls of HS age. Give em credit for it, help them to graduate. I say that's practical education. Enough of these programs where the kids carry around an egg all day. I don't think so. Enough condoms on bananas, I mean, look around you, who's got nice big cushy houses and who're living in trailers? The Amish have really nice houses and many Englishers live in trailers or apts. (like myself, apt). Anyway, I think our educational system really needs to be revamped. I'm not saying being Amish is perfect, but I think there are lessons to be learned among us. Let's listen, let's learn. Let's learn to lean on God, not mankind. I've seen some pretty dead end programs like Job-Corps where the girls are like a piece of meat in that environment unless they have a boyfriend to protect them. Let's "use our heads" as my grandmother would say.

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