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		<title>Comment on Watching Beyond the Trailer by Neil Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/watching-beyond-the-trailer/#comment-27147</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us look at 3 of the business taxes to be eliminated by the Michigan Fair Tax. How do they apply to movie companies coming to Michigan to make a film, but not permanently moving their headquarters to Michigan. The movie filming is all expense.
* MBT - None, the movie company is all expense. No headquarters, so there is no income to tax. Set up as a foreign corporation. 
* Business personal property tax - Minimal,bring only the cameras and other equipment needed for the brief time to shoot scenes.
* Business sales and use taxes - Minimal, purchase all material in California and bring it to Michigan.
* Expenses are: building leases, equipment rental, licenses, fees, motels, hotels, restaurants, and other expenses, local temp hiring. Pay all movie actors, producers, director, camera men, and other staff on California payroll. 
Do you see the picture, the 40 % tax credit is over-rated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us look at 3 of the business taxes to be eliminated by the Michigan Fair Tax. How do they apply to movie companies coming to Michigan to make a film, but not permanently moving their headquarters to Michigan. The movie filming is all expense.<br />
* MBT - None, the movie company is all expense. No headquarters, so there is no income to tax. Set up as a foreign corporation.<br />
* Business personal property tax - Minimal,bring only the cameras and other equipment needed for the brief time to shoot scenes.<br />
* Business sales and use taxes - Minimal, purchase all material in California and bring it to Michigan.<br />
* Expenses are: building leases, equipment rental, licenses, fees, motels, hotels, restaurants, and other expenses, local temp hiring. Pay all movie actors, producers, director, camera men, and other staff on California payroll.<br />
Do you see the picture, the 40 % tax credit is over-rated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Watching Beyond the Trailer by TeresaE</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/watching-beyond-the-trailer/#comment-27136</link>
		<dc:creator>TeresaE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I neglect to see how NEW business is costing the taxpayers anything.

When are the tax and spend minds going to realize that 100% of NOTHING--which is what we had before the "breaks" is still NOTHING.

But, what the heck.  The new "fair" tax is driving out existing business at a record pace.  Why bring ANY business here.

Our citizens apparently don't need jobs and the government will just continue to spend money they no longer have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I neglect to see how NEW business is costing the taxpayers anything.</p>
<p>When are the tax and spend minds going to realize that 100% of NOTHING--which is what we had before the "breaks" is still NOTHING.</p>
<p>But, what the heck.  The new "fair" tax is driving out existing business at a record pace.  Why bring ANY business here.</p>
<p>Our citizens apparently don't need jobs and the government will just continue to spend money they no longer have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Water Fight Continues by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/water-fight-continues/#comment-27128</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why is Michigan – located smack in the middle of the Great Lakes – failing to care for its water resources better than states with much less to gain?" asked Rusty Gates, president of Anglers of the AuSable.

---- Well people(states) with so much of one resource tend to have a skewed perspective of how long it will last and how generous we can be with it and still have plenty lying around.

---- However, the facts are that many areas of the nation are experiencing drought.  Many states refuse to use their revenue to solve the problem and instead want to siphon off water for cheap from a big source - our great lakes.
The result of that is the Great lakes would soon deplete and no longer BE the great lakes but great ponds.
Those that dont live and use the great lakes for lifestyle and living dont care about them nor do they care about our needs as a shoreline state.
They selfishly continue to allow urban and suburban sprawl and expansion in a DESERT!! 
I just flew over the western region last fall, and i saw numerous canals, aquaducts, stealing water resources from supplies, so people can move into a hot dry desert, plant a farm, build a golf course, have green lawns and shade, waste water on athletic fields, and basically act like uncaring pigs, so long as they get what they want, all surrounded by dry desert plains and mountains.

They want hot dry sun and climate with ample water for playtime and luxury.

As far as I'm concerned, they should let those areas go back to being dry and move to places where Human beings and animals like to be - hydrated land with rainfall.
Instead of forcing a problem to exist and then suing and stealing water from states that need their resources for future development and quality of life.

-I have a suggestion for dry areas.
Use your money and make the people who live there PAY for their climate and water, and build massive desalinization plants and pipe the endless supply of salty seawater in for usage and agriculture.
 A.) They would create a huge new business industry with the increased demand.
 B.) they would fuel new advances and technology to lower the costs
 C.) they could irrigate millions of acres of land that has been dry and hot for centuries thereby increasing foliage which in turn, sucks up more CO2, keeps erosion and dust storms down, lowers chances for land fires, adds farming production in a society that is seeing hard increases in prices and demand for food worldwide.
 D.) they would then be justifying their prescence in a desert, or just naturally dry areas near the oceans where little rain falls and lots of Seawater lies.
 E.) if enough countries adopt the technology, it could alter the sea levels that have been rising for decades, and potentially provide a possible remedy to global warming and melting icecaps.
Rehabilitating inland bodies of water should be a priority for humanity.
Lake Tahoe continues to go down, Lake mead - although man made, contiues to drop, the Great Lakes are all down to some degree, in other parts of the world same thing only worse, the Black Sea is at about HALF of what it was 60 yrs ago.
This one idea alone, of using desalinization plants to pump seawater into inland areas for massive hydration and human use, along with better land management techniques could turn the tide of global warming and has potential to save rainforests, boating, shipping, agriculture, housing, waterways, fishing, etc.

As an example, one small facility advertised by a company in Florida can currently desalinate 5 million gallons per day.
imagine permanent plants 10 times larger, Times 10 for every state on a coastline.
The national water tables would fill back up and inland water flow from where many states are currently sucking water from would rise and they wouldnt even have to change how they get their water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Why is Michigan – located smack in the middle of the Great Lakes – failing to care for its water resources better than states with much less to gain?" asked Rusty Gates, president of Anglers of the AuSable.</p>
<p>---- Well people(states) with so much of one resource tend to have a skewed perspective of how long it will last and how generous we can be with it and still have plenty lying around.</p>
<p>---- However, the facts are that many areas of the nation are experiencing drought.  Many states refuse to use their revenue to solve the problem and instead want to siphon off water for cheap from a big source - our great lakes.<br />
The result of that is the Great lakes would soon deplete and no longer BE the great lakes but great ponds.<br />
Those that dont live and use the great lakes for lifestyle and living dont care about them nor do they care about our needs as a shoreline state.<br />
They selfishly continue to allow urban and suburban sprawl and expansion in a DESERT!!<br />
I just flew over the western region last fall, and i saw numerous canals, aquaducts, stealing water resources from supplies, so people can move into a hot dry desert, plant a farm, build a golf course, have green lawns and shade, waste water on athletic fields, and basically act like uncaring pigs, so long as they get what they want, all surrounded by dry desert plains and mountains.</p>
<p>They want hot dry sun and climate with ample water for playtime and luxury.</p>
<p>As far as I'm concerned, they should let those areas go back to being dry and move to places where Human beings and animals like to be - hydrated land with rainfall.<br />
Instead of forcing a problem to exist and then suing and stealing water from states that need their resources for future development and quality of life.</p>
<p>-I have a suggestion for dry areas.<br />
Use your money and make the people who live there PAY for their climate and water, and build massive desalinization plants and pipe the endless supply of salty seawater in for usage and agriculture.<br />
 A.) They would create a huge new business industry with the increased demand.<br />
 B.) they would fuel new advances and technology to lower the costs<br />
 C.) they could irrigate millions of acres of land that has been dry and hot for centuries thereby increasing foliage which in turn, sucks up more CO2, keeps erosion and dust storms down, lowers chances for land fires, adds farming production in a society that is seeing hard increases in prices and demand for food worldwide.<br />
 D.) they would then be justifying their prescence in a desert, or just naturally dry areas near the oceans where little rain falls and lots of Seawater lies.<br />
 E.) if enough countries adopt the technology, it could alter the sea levels that have been rising for decades, and potentially provide a possible remedy to global warming and melting icecaps.<br />
Rehabilitating inland bodies of water should be a priority for humanity.<br />
Lake Tahoe continues to go down, Lake mead - although man made, contiues to drop, the Great Lakes are all down to some degree, in other parts of the world same thing only worse, the Black Sea is at about HALF of what it was 60 yrs ago.<br />
This one idea alone, of using desalinization plants to pump seawater into inland areas for massive hydration and human use, along with better land management techniques could turn the tide of global warming and has potential to save rainforests, boating, shipping, agriculture, housing, waterways, fishing, etc.</p>
<p>As an example, one small facility advertised by a company in Florida can currently desalinate 5 million gallons per day.<br />
imagine permanent plants 10 times larger, Times 10 for every state on a coastline.<br />
The national water tables would fill back up and inland water flow from where many states are currently sucking water from would rise and they wouldnt even have to change how they get their water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Run, Run, Run by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/run-run-run/#comment-27127</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are good and bad points about both term limits and length of terms, but i really think both should be extended in length.  I think that would be the best compromise.  
For grand legislators that have eventually run the length of their terms, and still want to work in the government sector to help the citizenry, why not create a continuous analysis panel made up of the most experienced and most effective former state legislators with staff to analyze major issues and provide recommendations and conclusions?
I know we occassionally have that kind of thing happen already but maybe we need a more permanent and more vocal group from that source of knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are good and bad points about both term limits and length of terms, but i really think both should be extended in length.  I think that would be the best compromise.<br />
For grand legislators that have eventually run the length of their terms, and still want to work in the government sector to help the citizenry, why not create a continuous analysis panel made up of the most experienced and most effective former state legislators with staff to analyze major issues and provide recommendations and conclusions?<br />
I know we occassionally have that kind of thing happen already but maybe we need a more permanent and more vocal group from that source of knowledge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Life in Michigan by Jim Burrum by Shannon/Jeff Petz</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/a-life-in-michigan-by-jim-burrum/#comment-26617</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon/Jeff Petz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful article. Jim Burrum makes good points on issues that should be considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful article. Jim Burrum makes good points on issues that should be considered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Life in Michigan by Jim Burrum by Jeanne Bosko</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/a-life-in-michigan-by-jim-burrum/#comment-26594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanne Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the article that Jim Burrum was good.  I agree with his statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the article that Jim Burrum was good.  I agree with his statements.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trouble with part-time lawmakers by Joseph Lukasiewicz</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/614/#comment-25472</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Lukasiewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire Mr. Woloson's efforts, but to remove term limits without other reform just begs more of the same.  While virtually impossible to eliminate, lobbyist influence must at least be diminished.  A moratorium on lobbying by elected officials leaving office would help break the cycle of outside influence on legislation.  Further, all elected state officials, not just the legislative branch, should be required to file annual financial disclosures.  Let's require a recorded roll call vote on all committee and full floor votes and then have those vote records available to the public. There is so much more that could be done to hold our officials accountable.  Supporting what Woloson's says about the greater number of legislators Michigan has compared to other states like California, I suggest we downsize the legislative branch.  With our state legislators, executives, and judges being nearly the highest paid in the nation, I'm not worried about the jobs not attracting talent.  Maybe a one-time reduction in pay to bring them all in line with comparable states would be in order.  And, if the legislature really thinks term limits should be abolished, let them draft the constitutional changes and present it to the people to approve or disapprove. But let's face it, that would be political suicide. So their alternative is to have their proxy, the Michigan Chamber of Commerce through their   Kalamazoo Chamber, exploit Woloson's genuine desire to reform Michigan's government. Using Woloson, the Chamber found a way to get term limits before the voters with no legislative fingerprints and sweetened with the notion of a lower paid part time legislature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire Mr. Woloson's efforts, but to remove term limits without other reform just begs more of the same.  While virtually impossible to eliminate, lobbyist influence must at least be diminished.  A moratorium on lobbying by elected officials leaving office would help break the cycle of outside influence on legislation.  Further, all elected state officials, not just the legislative branch, should be required to file annual financial disclosures.  Let's require a recorded roll call vote on all committee and full floor votes and then have those vote records available to the public. There is so much more that could be done to hold our officials accountable.  Supporting what Woloson's says about the greater number of legislators Michigan has compared to other states like California, I suggest we downsize the legislative branch.  With our state legislators, executives, and judges being nearly the highest paid in the nation, I'm not worried about the jobs not attracting talent.  Maybe a one-time reduction in pay to bring them all in line with comparable states would be in order.  And, if the legislature really thinks term limits should be abolished, let them draft the constitutional changes and present it to the people to approve or disapprove. But let's face it, that would be political suicide. So their alternative is to have their proxy, the Michigan Chamber of Commerce through their   Kalamazoo Chamber, exploit Woloson's genuine desire to reform Michigan's government. Using Woloson, the Chamber found a way to get term limits before the voters with no legislative fingerprints and sweetened with the notion of a lower paid part time legislature.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#039;s New Watchdogs by Mike Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/lansings-new-watchdogs/#comment-24998</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for this.  Do you think there is a spot on the agenda for discussing whether we ought to update/amend the state constitution?

If you go to this website: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/publications/Constitution.pdf

and get to Article XII, Section 3, there is a provision for amendment every 16 years.  If I am reading this correctly, the next revision could be in 2010.  Too soon to think about this?  Or are things just hunky-dory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for this.  Do you think there is a spot on the agenda for discussing whether we ought to update/amend the state constitution?</p>
<p>If you go to this website: <a href="http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/publications/Constitution.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/publications/Constitution.pdf</a></p>
<p>and get to Article XII, Section 3, there is a provision for amendment every 16 years.  If I am reading this correctly, the next revision could be in 2010.  Too soon to think about this?  Or are things just hunky-dory?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#039;s New Watchdogs by Frank Bommarito</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/lansings-new-watchdogs/#comment-23727</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Bommarito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an important task and it can help the state.  

How would we find the meeting location? 

I suspect the public should show interest so meetings keep happening even if things are not easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an important task and it can help the state.  </p>
<p>How would we find the meeting location? </p>
<p>I suspect the public should show interest so meetings keep happening even if things are not easy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#039;s New Watchdogs by Chuck Fellows</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/lansings-new-watchdogs/#comment-23194</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Fellows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. The panel should visit the Grand Rapids Public Library and see what they have done to become more effective (and therefore efficient, since efficiency follows effectiveness). See www.lean.org and search the articles for Grand Rapids for more detail.

The methods they have used can be migrated to any process within State Government. A Library is a public service just like government, just more focused.

And the word "focus" is a key part of the improvement process. For example, don't focus on the negative (dark corners); focus on the opportunities - there are more of those than there are corners!

2. Don't just recommend. Have the panel pick a small process (their plan for gathering info) and improve it. Then begin to look for other opportunities and make recommendations.

3. See examples as in "1." above and poll the panel members (especially the UAW member) for other examples within manufacturing and service industries.

Combine the recommendations with "Green" and alternative energy initiatives to get the maximum bang for the buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The panel should visit the Grand Rapids Public Library and see what they have done to become more effective (and therefore efficient, since efficiency follows effectiveness). See <a href="http://www.lean.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.lean.org</a> and search the articles for Grand Rapids for more detail.</p>
<p>The methods they have used can be migrated to any process within State Government. A Library is a public service just like government, just more focused.</p>
<p>And the word "focus" is a key part of the improvement process. For example, don't focus on the negative (dark corners); focus on the opportunities - there are more of those than there are corners!</p>
<p>2. Don't just recommend. Have the panel pick a small process (their plan for gathering info) and improve it. Then begin to look for other opportunities and make recommendations.</p>
<p>3. See examples as in "1." above and poll the panel members (especially the UAW member) for other examples within manufacturing and service industries.</p>
<p>Combine the recommendations with "Green" and alternative energy initiatives to get the maximum bang for the buck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Responding to Need by Confidential</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/responding-to-need/#comment-23153</link>
		<dc:creator>Confidential</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that this survey is not very indicative of how I have found people to respond recently with philanthropy to something I have done for the past several years.  I am doing an American Cancer Society “Relay For Life” event in the community I live in and am finding that people are not very “giving” at all this year.  However, I truly understand that with the cost of gas, food, and really everything sky-rocketing out of control, it is really not an option.  People are struggling to just make their monthly bills and don’t have extra money to give.  As far as time goes for volunteering, a lot of people have to take another job just to make ends meet.  Or they don’t have extra money for gas to get out and to volunteer.  Times are touch, not just her in Michigan, but everywhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that this survey is not very indicative of how I have found people to respond recently with philanthropy to something I have done for the past several years.  I am doing an American Cancer Society “Relay For Life” event in the community I live in and am finding that people are not very “giving” at all this year.  However, I truly understand that with the cost of gas, food, and really everything sky-rocketing out of control, it is really not an option.  People are struggling to just make their monthly bills and don’t have extra money to give.  As far as time goes for volunteering, a lot of people have to take another job just to make ends meet.  Or they don’t have extra money for gas to get out and to volunteer.  Times are touch, not just her in Michigan, but everywhere!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#039;s New Watchdogs by Dale Westrick</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/lansings-new-watchdogs/#comment-23143</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Westrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting statement that they lack the musc;e to bring about changes. If there is anything bothers me is the word I and not we. But first in line is can't if you were to talk to any one of our 7 children they would tell you what I tell them. Can't died in the poor house right along with couldn't.
It is possibile if you have the will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting statement that they lack the musc;e to bring about changes. If there is anything bothers me is the word I and not we. But first in line is can't if you were to talk to any one of our 7 children they would tell you what I tell them. Can't died in the poor house right along with couldn't.<br />
It is possibile if you have the will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lansing&#039;s New Watchdogs by Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/lansings-new-watchdogs/#comment-23139</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it include our elected officials statewide?  If not, it should!</description>
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		<title>Comment on State students deep in hock by Tom Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/state-students-deep-in-hock/#comment-23087</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 13:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privatize all of Michigan's higher education and fund our citizen's based on their financial need - let the market control costs.  Then add a tax incentive for employers who pay the educational loan for employees whom they hire that are Michigan citizen's who have graduated from a Michigan non-profit college or university.

No need to pump more tax dollars into our bureaucracies - invest in our citizens instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privatize all of Michigan's higher education and fund our citizen's based on their financial need - let the market control costs.  Then add a tax incentive for employers who pay the educational loan for employees whom they hire that are Michigan citizen's who have graduated from a Michigan non-profit college or university.</p>
<p>No need to pump more tax dollars into our bureaucracies - invest in our citizens instead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MI&#039;s New Info Assembly Line by Mike Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/mis-new-info-assembly-line/#comment-22386</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Phil.  The artfully drawn metaphor of the information assembly line works.  ePrize has a niche, and we should all be happy for it and not waste a moment to hold it up as an example of what is possible.  As with all information businesses, though;  they need to be looking over their shoulder at competition.  As with many information-age businesses, that old bugaboo--the barrier to entry--is low.  Maybe Michigan should be thinking about letting it be known that we will support start ups when they hit that competitive “wall”.  We'll need to shake ourselves of that Old Michigan habit of calling every regulatory initiative some kind of "jobs" program, though.  We're going to have to hold our noses and call it something like a middle stage "business SUPPORT" initiative -- otherwise we frighten the capital.

Now I must admit that I am a newbie to this concept of barrier to entry in the industrial organization so don’t quote me.  The University has its own expert in multinational conglomerates ; a guy in the economics department named William Adams.  I was doing some web crawling and came upon this paper, “Beer in Germany and the United States," Journal of Economic Perspectives, 20(1), Winter 2006, 189-205.” and was pleasantly surprised.  Another small businessman I know from my son’s soccer team has been trying to educate me on the concept of “the firm”.  I still don’t get it, and maybe when I do I’ll fully appreciate the contrast of Walker Wire and ePrize.   

Now if ePrize, is still in that renovated warehouse building off I-696 that used to be a manufacturing facility of some sort, you probably used that 2 story elevator that they had voltage problems with about 3 years ago.  (An electrical contractor working for them called me in for some engineering assistance).  The space is, indeed…groovy in a campy, Google-ish sort of way.  I did not get the impression, however, that they were hiring PhD’s, though.  The supply of young, smart, ineluctably “attractive” people, in that part of the county was plentiful.  

For a more fully dimensioned view of possibilities for Michigan’s transformation, might I suggest a trip to Clutch Cargo’s or St. Andrews Hall?  One cannot fully understand the young unless we understand their music.   Maybe that is how we get our young people to stay: Tax abatements for nightclubs!  Ha! (On the condition they clean up the place of drugs , of course) I say, create a barrier to Sandhill Road’s poaching of our home grown talent with alternative rock.  Want more ePrizes?  I say, nurture garage bands; not just the “arts” as visualized by the state-paid arts administrators.  Music is information.  While the music industry is having a hard time; the music itself isn’t.  Have a listen to Ann Arbor’s own Tally Hall.  Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Phil.  The artfully drawn metaphor of the information assembly line works.  ePrize has a niche, and we should all be happy for it and not waste a moment to hold it up as an example of what is possible.  As with all information businesses, though;  they need to be looking over their shoulder at competition.  As with many information-age businesses, that old bugaboo--the barrier to entry--is low.  Maybe Michigan should be thinking about letting it be known that we will support start ups when they hit that competitive “wall”.  We'll need to shake ourselves of that Old Michigan habit of calling every regulatory initiative some kind of "jobs" program, though.  We're going to have to hold our noses and call it something like a middle stage "business SUPPORT" initiative -- otherwise we frighten the capital.</p>
<p>Now I must admit that I am a newbie to this concept of barrier to entry in the industrial organization so don’t quote me.  The University has its own expert in multinational conglomerates ; a guy in the economics department named William Adams.  I was doing some web crawling and came upon this paper, “Beer in Germany and the United States," Journal of Economic Perspectives, 20(1), Winter 2006, 189-205.” and was pleasantly surprised.  Another small businessman I know from my son’s soccer team has been trying to educate me on the concept of “the firm”.  I still don’t get it, and maybe when I do I’ll fully appreciate the contrast of Walker Wire and ePrize.   </p>
<p>Now if ePrize, is still in that renovated warehouse building off I-696 that used to be a manufacturing facility of some sort, you probably used that 2 story elevator that they had voltage problems with about 3 years ago.  (An electrical contractor working for them called me in for some engineering assistance).  The space is, indeed…groovy in a campy, Google-ish sort of way.  I did not get the impression, however, that they were hiring PhD’s, though.  The supply of young, smart, ineluctably “attractive” people, in that part of the county was plentiful.  </p>
<p>For a more fully dimensioned view of possibilities for Michigan’s transformation, might I suggest a trip to Clutch Cargo’s or St. Andrews Hall?  One cannot fully understand the young unless we understand their music.   Maybe that is how we get our young people to stay: Tax abatements for nightclubs!  Ha! (On the condition they clean up the place of drugs , of course) I say, create a barrier to Sandhill Road’s poaching of our home grown talent with alternative rock.  Want more ePrizes?  I say, nurture garage bands; not just the “arts” as visualized by the state-paid arts administrators.  Music is information.  While the music industry is having a hard time; the music itself isn’t.  Have a listen to Ann Arbor’s own Tally Hall.  Take care.</p>
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		<title>Comment on POST YOUR STORY HERE by Laura Gerow</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/post-your-story-here/#comment-21984</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Gerow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the upper part of Michigan in the fall and seeing the crisp fall leaves falling down around the Mackniaw BRIDGE. I love when they have there anual bridge walk and I am a big fan and walk the bridge every year. It's about five miles to walk across it. To see the water below you when you walk over the green part and it is scarey to some folks, because they think they are going to fall through the water. I love to go through the shops and the yummy smell of fudge that is being made and the choclate strawberrys and I Love Mackniaw and so will you with all its wonderful beauty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the upper part of Michigan in the fall and seeing the crisp fall leaves falling down around the Mackniaw BRIDGE. I love when they have there anual bridge walk and I am a big fan and walk the bridge every year. It's about five miles to walk across it. To see the water below you when you walk over the green part and it is scarey to some folks, because they think they are going to fall through the water. I love to go through the shops and the yummy smell of fudge that is being made and the choclate strawberrys and I Love Mackniaw and so will you with all its wonderful beauty!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by rcarter42</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-21529</link>
		<dc:creator>rcarter42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, Steve, you are reading my comments with the same good nature as I'm reading yours. It's sometime difficult to know the emotions of someone from the words they write. 
So, answering B, I think it's a great idea to have Phil explain which meaning is correct - Phil go ahead and jump in. 
As for D, when Phil said the petitioners were buying votes, I wrote that they didn't try to buy MY vote. That certainly bolsters your intrepretation. I still believe Phil meant exactly what he said. I wrote they didn't try to by my vote to make the point that if some petitioners are trying to buy the vote, that doesn't mean they ALL are trying to buy the vote.
Elected official responsibility: Politicians are elected to be the representative voice of the people. I don't expect to agree with them all the time. What I DO expect is the elected official get back to me with a response acknowledging my issue or question. Any elected official that simply ignores their constituents does not belong in office. This is especially true on a local level. I'm not expecting quick personal service; a letter showing up in my mailbox two months later would have been acceptable.
Whether he made the correct legislative choices in Lansing also seems to be a difference in our opinion, based on the rebuttals you have written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, Steve, you are reading my comments with the same good nature as I'm reading yours. It's sometime difficult to know the emotions of someone from the words they write.<br />
So, answering B, I think it's a great idea to have Phil explain which meaning is correct - Phil go ahead and jump in.<br />
As for D, when Phil said the petitioners were buying votes, I wrote that they didn't try to buy MY vote. That certainly bolsters your intrepretation. I still believe Phil meant exactly what he said. I wrote they didn't try to by my vote to make the point that if some petitioners are trying to buy the vote, that doesn't mean they ALL are trying to buy the vote.<br />
Elected official responsibility: Politicians are elected to be the representative voice of the people. I don't expect to agree with them all the time. What I DO expect is the elected official get back to me with a response acknowledging my issue or question. Any elected official that simply ignores their constituents does not belong in office. This is especially true on a local level. I'm not expecting quick personal service; a letter showing up in my mailbox two months later would have been acceptable.<br />
Whether he made the correct legislative choices in Lansing also seems to be a difference in our opinion, based on the rebuttals you have written.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Strong Growth Up North by tim wintermute</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/strong-growth-up-north/#comment-21289</link>
		<dc:creator>tim wintermute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the Traverse City Area Chamber of Commerce's 2008 economic forecast their population over age 50 is higher than the state and national average and their economic growth is higher than the state and nation. The Chamber sees a connection between the two and is the only Chamber in Michigan that I know of that actively tries to attract older people as a major part of their economic growth and jobs strategy.  The SEMCOG forecast-study for SE Michigan by U of M economists Fulton and Grimes identify the same opportunity for SE Michigan. Although older people bring money into a community thus creating jobs for younger people and consume less of the services paid for by local taxes (localities make money on older people that they can then use to subsidize what they lose on younger people) yet the economic strategies in the state for the  most part totally ignore this opportunity.  They can learn from Traverse City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Traverse City Area Chamber of Commerce's 2008 economic forecast their population over age 50 is higher than the state and national average and their economic growth is higher than the state and nation. The Chamber sees a connection between the two and is the only Chamber in Michigan that I know of that actively tries to attract older people as a major part of their economic growth and jobs strategy.  The SEMCOG forecast-study for SE Michigan by U of M economists Fulton and Grimes identify the same opportunity for SE Michigan. Although older people bring money into a community thus creating jobs for younger people and consume less of the services paid for by local taxes (localities make money on older people that they can then use to subsidize what they lose on younger people) yet the economic strategies in the state for the  most part totally ignore this opportunity.  They can learn from Traverse City.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kzoo&#039;s Lessons for Michigan by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/kzoos-lessons-for-michigan/#comment-21262</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good!
keep it up.  If Ford really does turn around next year and start hiring, it will help a LOT.  If the expansions and investments Granholm's emails keep touting work out, then we should be able to set a base for our state's future growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good!<br />
keep it up.  If Ford really does turn around next year and start hiring, it will help a LOT.  If the expansions and investments Granholm's emails keep touting work out, then we should be able to set a base for our state's future growth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-21259</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rcarter42
- i understand the text of what Phil wrote, and im not arguing that point. I was stating that I believe he Meant- based on the Context of the article that the numbers he wrote were based on the total COST of getting those votes, not that Literally people were paying cash for votes.
A) I think that is illegal.
B) Why dont you just ask Phil what he meant.  I cant prove my interpretation is right nor can you prove your own.  I just gave you a more common sense interpretation than the one you are upset about.
C) if they did pay for votes, it certainly would take away any credibility of the list of signatures that were on it.
D) you're own example of those that knocked on your door bolsters my interpretation and Not yours.

As for Dillon himself, its ok, you can dislike him all you want.  I dont know the man personally and im indifferent to wanting to. 
 I stated point my argument that its more important to me to see an elected official trying very hard to move legislation to solve problems or at least do their job per our state constituion that is law.  Than if i have met the man or woman and find them distasteful or that they have wronged me personally somehow and tainted my opinion of their personality or job habits.

If we based all our elected officials on how congenial they are to every single person that contacts them or that they give quick personal service at every level, then i dare say they would not be accomplishing major tasks because of concentrating solely on minor ones.  I'm not saying its not important at all to focus on individuals but there should be a compromise and some people will lose out.

The good of many outweighs the good of one in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rcarter42<br />
- i understand the text of what Phil wrote, and im not arguing that point. I was stating that I believe he Meant- based on the Context of the article that the numbers he wrote were based on the total COST of getting those votes, not that Literally people were paying cash for votes.<br />
A) I think that is illegal.<br />
B) Why dont you just ask Phil what he meant.  I cant prove my interpretation is right nor can you prove your own.  I just gave you a more common sense interpretation than the one you are upset about.<br />
C) if they did pay for votes, it certainly would take away any credibility of the list of signatures that were on it.<br />
D) you're own example of those that knocked on your door bolsters my interpretation and Not yours.</p>
<p>As for Dillon himself, its ok, you can dislike him all you want.  I dont know the man personally and im indifferent to wanting to.<br />
 I stated point my argument that its more important to me to see an elected official trying very hard to move legislation to solve problems or at least do their job per our state constituion that is law.  Than if i have met the man or woman and find them distasteful or that they have wronged me personally somehow and tainted my opinion of their personality or job habits.</p>
<p>If we based all our elected officials on how congenial they are to every single person that contacts them or that they give quick personal service at every level, then i dare say they would not be accomplishing major tasks because of concentrating solely on minor ones.  I'm not saying its not important at all to focus on individuals but there should be a compromise and some people will lose out.</p>
<p>The good of many outweighs the good of one in my book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Strong Growth Up North by John Deikis</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/strong-growth-up-north/#comment-21254</link>
		<dc:creator>John Deikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...However, the regional economy is growing jobs in other sectors, especially healthcare, human services, and business services." 

Unless I'm missing something here, none of these sectors create wealth, they just move existing money around. The fact that we are creating jobs for surgeons and nursing assistants suggests dismal economic prospects. Growth in services without growth in industry predicts a day when no one will have the means to buy the services.

So, why is your news good news for Michigan?

--John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...However, the regional economy is growing jobs in other sectors, especially healthcare, human services, and business services." </p>
<p>Unless I'm missing something here, none of these sectors create wealth, they just move existing money around. The fact that we are creating jobs for surgeons and nursing assistants suggests dismal economic prospects. Growth in services without growth in industry predicts a day when no one will have the means to buy the services.</p>
<p>So, why is your news good news for Michigan?</p>
<p>--John</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by rcarter42</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-21001</link>
		<dc:creator>rcarter42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebuttal and explanation for Wei:
Rebuttal: Phil explicitly stated:  According to three sources (who asked for anonymity for fear of harassment), the pro-recall people started out paying $2 for every signature. That went to $4 each, then $6. Now the going rate appears to be $10 per name.
Therefore, your thought that Phil was referring to the cost of each vote by dividing the total number of expected names added to the list, by the total amount of funding its costing to purchase the supplies, the marketing is not correct.
Explanation: I mentioned my past unhappiness with Dillon so that my opposition to the recall petition is taken in perspective: As in, I don't like Dillon, but I will not participate in the recall. I think recalls are a pointless exercise.
Now to steal line from Dave Auwers "Thanks for hearing me out."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebuttal and explanation for Wei:<br />
Rebuttal: Phil explicitly stated:  According to three sources (who asked for anonymity for fear of harassment), the pro-recall people started out paying $2 for every signature. That went to $4 each, then $6. Now the going rate appears to be $10 per name.<br />
Therefore, your thought that Phil was referring to the cost of each vote by dividing the total number of expected names added to the list, by the total amount of funding its costing to purchase the supplies, the marketing is not correct.<br />
Explanation: I mentioned my past unhappiness with Dillon so that my opposition to the recall petition is taken in perspective: As in, I don't like Dillon, but I will not participate in the recall. I think recalls are a pointless exercise.<br />
Now to steal line from Dave Auwers "Thanks for hearing me out."</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Dave Auwers</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20862</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Auwers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Power,
I was very disappointed by your column this week regarding the recall group's efforts.  I agree that a lot of time money and effort is being expended for nothing.  I also agree that, of course, the recall is politically motivated.  The article, however, was based entirely on anonymous sources, complete conjecture in regards to money spent, and hearsay from Dillon supporters.  You also didn't mention any of the tactics Dillon's people have been accused of, such as using on-duty police to harass those collecting signatures.  You also never mention where Dillon is getting the money to fight back.  
While I don't always agree with your views, I always enjoy your clear reasoning and positive thoughts.  This article fell far short of what I expect from you, appearing to be simply a name calling, politically motivated platform.  Please revert to your usual well thought out, well researched columns.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Dave Auwers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Power,<br />
I was very disappointed by your column this week regarding the recall group's efforts.  I agree that a lot of time money and effort is being expended for nothing.  I also agree that, of course, the recall is politically motivated.  The article, however, was based entirely on anonymous sources, complete conjecture in regards to money spent, and hearsay from Dillon supporters.  You also didn't mention any of the tactics Dillon's people have been accused of, such as using on-duty police to harass those collecting signatures.  You also never mention where Dillon is getting the money to fight back.<br />
While I don't always agree with your views, I always enjoy your clear reasoning and positive thoughts.  This article fell far short of what I expect from you, appearing to be simply a name calling, politically motivated platform.  Please revert to your usual well thought out, well researched columns.<br />
Thanks for hearing me out.<br />
Dave Auwers</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20860</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rcarter42
- i may be incorrect, but i beleive Phil was referring to the cost of each vote by dividing the total number of expected names added to the list, by the total amount of funding its costing to purchase the supplies, the marketing, the etc etc to accomplish this recall effort.
Thats why it has been bankrolled.

So i dont think he meant they are literally offering people like you, money to add your name to the list, to define it as "buying" your vote.

As for your experience with Mr. Dillon, i'd say from my experience many people have many different personal experiences with local and state officials and some are always bad and some good.  If thats just the nature of people who go after those jobs or not, i cant say, however, I always consider the person's performance overall vs the competitor to judge their worthyness to be in office. 

From my perspective, his two congressional counterparts appear to be large blocks of concrete on the road to recovery, and Dillon has appeared to put in a decent effort to solve the problems in alliance with the governor.

Lest we forget, In Parallel to the Federal Government, Michigan has had a Long term of Republican Controlled State congress, just as the Fed with the National Congress.

When things were good for the nation, we didnt have tax cuts and our economy nationally and statewide made plenty of revenue.
Since then, The nation is now in its second recession in the same presidency, and only starting its 2nd year of democratic control in congress with a president stuffing them at every attempt to change course.

In our state, the GOP cut the income tax for us with Engler's initiative back when things were good... and no one complained about that.  thats fine.
But when things went bad, our GOP congress didnt see the writing on the wall that auto sales were dipping significantly and shedding jobs in the industry left and right.  Nohing was done.  Tax cuts did ZERO for our state economy as it continued to slide because of different reasons than people that were working needed a few extra bucks a month in "Tax releif".  Coincidentally major economic research organizations determined quite specifically that Mr. Bush's tax cuts cost our government more in revenue and cuts to services and lossed jobs than it spurred in economic growth.  Which stands to reason because they gave most of it to people who didnt need any of it to invest or buy things.

So in conclusion, GOP policies of economics, business acumen, community development and social service needs, dont seem to be inline with patterns of success and prosperity for those that need it the most.  However, they do seem to benefit their supporters and themselves greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rcarter42<br />
- i may be incorrect, but i beleive Phil was referring to the cost of each vote by dividing the total number of expected names added to the list, by the total amount of funding its costing to purchase the supplies, the marketing, the etc etc to accomplish this recall effort.<br />
Thats why it has been bankrolled.</p>
<p>So i dont think he meant they are literally offering people like you, money to add your name to the list, to define it as "buying" your vote.</p>
<p>As for your experience with Mr. Dillon, i'd say from my experience many people have many different personal experiences with local and state officials and some are always bad and some good.  If thats just the nature of people who go after those jobs or not, i cant say, however, I always consider the person's performance overall vs the competitor to judge their worthyness to be in office. </p>
<p>From my perspective, his two congressional counterparts appear to be large blocks of concrete on the road to recovery, and Dillon has appeared to put in a decent effort to solve the problems in alliance with the governor.</p>
<p>Lest we forget, In Parallel to the Federal Government, Michigan has had a Long term of Republican Controlled State congress, just as the Fed with the National Congress.</p>
<p>When things were good for the nation, we didnt have tax cuts and our economy nationally and statewide made plenty of revenue.<br />
Since then, The nation is now in its second recession in the same presidency, and only starting its 2nd year of democratic control in congress with a president stuffing them at every attempt to change course.</p>
<p>In our state, the GOP cut the income tax for us with Engler's initiative back when things were good... and no one complained about that.  thats fine.<br />
But when things went bad, our GOP congress didnt see the writing on the wall that auto sales were dipping significantly and shedding jobs in the industry left and right.  Nohing was done.  Tax cuts did ZERO for our state economy as it continued to slide because of different reasons than people that were working needed a few extra bucks a month in "Tax releif".  Coincidentally major economic research organizations determined quite specifically that Mr. Bush's tax cuts cost our government more in revenue and cuts to services and lossed jobs than it spurred in economic growth.  Which stands to reason because they gave most of it to people who didnt need any of it to invest or buy things.</p>
<p>So in conclusion, GOP policies of economics, business acumen, community development and social service needs, dont seem to be inline with patterns of success and prosperity for those that need it the most.  However, they do seem to benefit their supporters and themselves greatly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by rcarter42</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcarter42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To begin with, I do not like Dillon. I didn't like him when he was a Redford Township Trustee, as he ignored the questions of his constituents. I tried to contact him on a couple occasions, and was ignored. When he came around asking for my vote for the Michigan legislature, I told him he wasn't getting my vote because he didn't respond to my questions while a Trustee. He claimed the secretaries were not giving him his messages. Assume that's true (which I doubt) it's his job to make sure his staff does their job communicating.

However, I also will not participate in his recall. I believe it's the voters job to vote for his opponent. Recalls are a waste of time and money, and very rarely work. Phil says the petitioners are buying votes. I've been visited by petitioners at my home at least six times. I now have a sign on my door that states this, hopefully the petitioners get the idea. However, no one tried to buy my vote, nor would I have accepted it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To begin with, I do not like Dillon. I didn't like him when he was a Redford Township Trustee, as he ignored the questions of his constituents. I tried to contact him on a couple occasions, and was ignored. When he came around asking for my vote for the Michigan legislature, I told him he wasn't getting my vote because he didn't respond to my questions while a Trustee. He claimed the secretaries were not giving him his messages. Assume that's true (which I doubt) it's his job to make sure his staff does their job communicating.</p>
<p>However, I also will not participate in his recall. I believe it's the voters job to vote for his opponent. Recalls are a waste of time and money, and very rarely work. Phil says the petitioners are buying votes. I've been visited by petitioners at my home at least six times. I now have a sign on my door that states this, hopefully the petitioners get the idea. However, no one tried to buy my vote, nor would I have accepted it anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big Bucks for MI Tourism by farlane</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/big-bucks-for-mi-tourism/#comment-20809</link>
		<dc:creator>farlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks like a great program. 

I especially like the part that prohibits spending on any state or MEDC employees. I say this not because I bear them any ill will, but because I believe we need to diversify the message from Michigan.

While "Pure Michigan" is a great campaign, I don't believe it is the end-all. Other messages and message-makers need to get funding to tell more stories from our state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks like a great program. </p>
<p>I especially like the part that prohibits spending on any state or MEDC employees. I say this not because I bear them any ill will, but because I believe we need to diversify the message from Michigan.</p>
<p>While "Pure Michigan" is a great campaign, I don't believe it is the end-all. Other messages and message-makers need to get funding to tell more stories from our state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big Bucks for MI Tourism by Steve Wei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should spend more on areas in our state that are clearly revenue producing ventures.

Its common knowledge that you have to invest to get a return on that investment.  So our state must spend some money to make money.

Tourism is a good choice to spend on, because the reasons people come to our state, are also the reasons people who live here like it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should spend more on areas in our state that are clearly revenue producing ventures.</p>
<p>Its common knowledge that you have to invest to get a return on that investment.  So our state must spend some money to make money.</p>
<p>Tourism is a good choice to spend on, because the reasons people come to our state, are also the reasons people who live here like it too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20654</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Article Mr. Power.

I watched intently the Rick Albin specials with interviews of the various players all last fall and i have to say, Deroche and Bishop were pathetic.  I have never seen two people toss more insults at their opposing party members in my life.

Everytime Mr. Dillon and Gov. Granholms spoke in response, it was measured, hopeful and with full attempts to be cooperative. (althought toward the end, the frustration was evident)

Bishop on the other hand purposely adjourned the Senate numerous times when a vote was to come, and stated both that he would not support and that he would support the same topics numerous times.  Deroche just kept lobbing baseless antagonistic insults at anyone he could, sounding as childish and immature as any employee of the state could sound.
Neither Deroche or Bishop ever came up with any plans to balance the budget, never voted on Granholm's proposals and fought tooth and nail against any idea the House came up with.
On top of that, They controlled both houses of state congress for years and failed to fix this oncoming budgetary disaster for years of watching it come while granholm's budget cutting continued each year.

You wanna talk about obstructionists to progress and refusal to do the job they were elected to do?  thats classic.

You too can watch the interviews if you go to Woodtv8's website and check their archive of political videos.

The Campaign to remove Mr. Dillon is just another terrible example of a political party that cannot win by telling the truth.  Another reason i am ashamed that i used to be a member of that party.

The fact that the term limits also make these recalls particularly moot, is another testament to the audaciously obvious political attacks that this group and its members are perpetrating.  The Estimated $250k they may spend to start this, then the "TAXPAYER dollars" it will take to follow it through, And the Fact that some of this funding and initiative is from out of state political hacks, is an insult to all Michigan residents.  ... Can Anyone tell why it is, that of the two major political parties, the GOP provides ream after ream of recent evidence, at the national and State level, showing clearly that they cannot win elections by telling the truth and will literally stop at no tactic to cause harm to their opponents? - yet this is the "conservative, christian" party? ....hipocrisy knows no bounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Article Mr. Power.</p>
<p>I watched intently the Rick Albin specials with interviews of the various players all last fall and i have to say, Deroche and Bishop were pathetic.  I have never seen two people toss more insults at their opposing party members in my life.</p>
<p>Everytime Mr. Dillon and Gov. Granholms spoke in response, it was measured, hopeful and with full attempts to be cooperative. (althought toward the end, the frustration was evident)</p>
<p>Bishop on the other hand purposely adjourned the Senate numerous times when a vote was to come, and stated both that he would not support and that he would support the same topics numerous times.  Deroche just kept lobbing baseless antagonistic insults at anyone he could, sounding as childish and immature as any employee of the state could sound.<br />
Neither Deroche or Bishop ever came up with any plans to balance the budget, never voted on Granholm's proposals and fought tooth and nail against any idea the House came up with.<br />
On top of that, They controlled both houses of state congress for years and failed to fix this oncoming budgetary disaster for years of watching it come while granholm's budget cutting continued each year.</p>
<p>You wanna talk about obstructionists to progress and refusal to do the job they were elected to do?  thats classic.</p>
<p>You too can watch the interviews if you go to Woodtv8's website and check their archive of political videos.</p>
<p>The Campaign to remove Mr. Dillon is just another terrible example of a political party that cannot win by telling the truth.  Another reason i am ashamed that i used to be a member of that party.</p>
<p>The fact that the term limits also make these recalls particularly moot, is another testament to the audaciously obvious political attacks that this group and its members are perpetrating.  The Estimated $250k they may spend to start this, then the "TAXPAYER dollars" it will take to follow it through, And the Fact that some of this funding and initiative is from out of state political hacks, is an insult to all Michigan residents.  ... Can Anyone tell why it is, that of the two major political parties, the GOP provides ream after ream of recent evidence, at the national and State level, showing clearly that they cannot win elections by telling the truth and will literally stop at no tactic to cause harm to their opponents? - yet this is the "conservative, christian" party? ....hipocrisy knows no bounds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20504</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don't see much of Karl Rove anymore, but his goons live on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't see much of Karl Rove anymore, but his goons live on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Mike Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20468</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, if these are all the facts then it does seem lamentable that negative energy is being spent on a power struggle rather than spending creative energy on finding common ground--however small and incremental the way forward may be. The Speaker of the House is a large target and I suppose the GOP's "permanent interest" extends beyond the term of any single representative. 

As Michigan tries to re-join the globally reconfigured jet stream of capital by developing its information technology businesses, we can see how all these cool new tools (blogs like this one, for example) can be deployed to divide us--as well as unite us.  There are some very internet saavy political staffers who can skillfully hurt as well as help a political career with the way they manipulate information.  Just turn on cable news any night and look at all the people who can have a career in political bloviating!

This leads me to a larger, but loosely  related idea that Michigan's competitive advantage used to lie in the "barrier to entry" that large capital investment in manufacturing capability presented to competitors.  I worry at bit about going too far into transforming the Michigan economy into an information age economy.   (Frankly, I’ve been hearing that since 1980) While we may only be able to earn half of what we used to earn while doing it, let's try to retain some "barrier to entry" to competitors by staying in the business of making big, heavy complicated stuff you can't transform into a digital bit and run through a cable.

As the situation with Representative Dillon demonstrates, the information age enables any competitor to eviscerate your political career in a keystroke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, if these are all the facts then it does seem lamentable that negative energy is being spent on a power struggle rather than spending creative energy on finding common ground--however small and incremental the way forward may be. The Speaker of the House is a large target and I suppose the GOP's "permanent interest" extends beyond the term of any single representative. </p>
<p>As Michigan tries to re-join the globally reconfigured jet stream of capital by developing its information technology businesses, we can see how all these cool new tools (blogs like this one, for example) can be deployed to divide us--as well as unite us.  There are some very internet saavy political staffers who can skillfully hurt as well as help a political career with the way they manipulate information.  Just turn on cable news any night and look at all the people who can have a career in political bloviating!</p>
<p>This leads me to a larger, but loosely  related idea that Michigan's competitive advantage used to lie in the "barrier to entry" that large capital investment in manufacturing capability presented to competitors.  I worry at bit about going too far into transforming the Michigan economy into an information age economy.   (Frankly, I’ve been hearing that since 1980) While we may only be able to earn half of what we used to earn while doing it, let's try to retain some "barrier to entry" to competitors by staying in the business of making big, heavy complicated stuff you can't transform into a digital bit and run through a cable.</p>
<p>As the situation with Representative Dillon demonstrates, the information age enables any competitor to eviscerate your political career in a keystroke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Faith Restored by Ken Saulter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Saulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of cross-cultural communication within  Michigan is fasinating. Imagine a group from the UP and Detroit meeting 2-3 times a year to figure out ways to communicate about issues of common interest sounds like an outside the box idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of cross-cultural communication within  Michigan is fasinating. Imagine a group from the UP and Detroit meeting 2-3 times a year to figure out ways to communicate about issues of common interest sounds like an outside the box idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Faith Restored by Ken Saulter</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/faith-restored/#comment-20422</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Saulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan photos are great. Since we are a 4-season state, why not post photos for the season we're in--save the golden tree (a beauty) for autumn and post Spring photos now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michigan photos are great. Since we are a 4-season state, why not post photos for the season we're in--save the golden tree (a beauty) for autumn and post Spring photos now?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Embarrassment and Pride by Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/embarrassment-and-pride/#comment-20420</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosquito bites irritate but can't ruin the glory of summer. So it is with Michigan's problems (and those who add to them). The Center is to be commended for keeping the focus on the salve and not the itch, while reminding us that surface irritations can't penetrate the soul. Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosquito bites irritate but can't ruin the glory of summer. So it is with Michigan's problems (and those who add to them). The Center is to be commended for keeping the focus on the salve and not the itch, while reminding us that surface irritations can't penetrate the soul. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trends in High School Hallways by Richard Thibodeau</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/775/#comment-20412</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Thibodeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TRENDS IN HIGH SCHOOL HALLWAYS.......When I first saw the title, I was hoping it might have been about a trend that we need to welcome and nurture: MORE CARING CITIZENS, RETIREES WITH ALL OF THEIR ACADEMIC AND TECHNICAL SKILLS,
QUALIFIED MENTORS, TUTORS, HALL AND LUNCH ROOM MONITORS WHO CAN DO WONDERS TO MAKE OUR SCHOOLS
SCENES FOR A LOT MORE SERIOUS LEARNING. THE SENIORS ARE OUT THERE. WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS LIKE DETROIT NEEDING "SYSTEMIC CHANGE"-SOUNDS REALLY IMPRESSIVE! I THINK THE REAL ANSWERS ARE MORE ON THE VERY HUMAN AND VERY DO-ABLE LEVEL.
AT ONE OF THE RECENT COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS I PARTICIPATED IN , A VETERAN EDUCATOR GAVE  AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EFFECTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE
FOR THE KIDS SENIORS ARE WHEN THEY COME ONBOARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRENDS IN HIGH SCHOOL HALLWAYS.......When I first saw the title, I was hoping it might have been about a trend that we need to welcome and nurture: MORE CARING CITIZENS, RETIREES WITH ALL OF THEIR ACADEMIC AND TECHNICAL SKILLS,<br />
QUALIFIED MENTORS, TUTORS, HALL AND LUNCH ROOM MONITORS WHO CAN DO WONDERS TO MAKE OUR SCHOOLS<br />
SCENES FOR A LOT MORE SERIOUS LEARNING. THE SENIORS ARE OUT THERE. WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS LIKE DETROIT NEEDING "SYSTEMIC CHANGE"-SOUNDS REALLY IMPRESSIVE! I THINK THE REAL ANSWERS ARE MORE ON THE VERY HUMAN AND VERY DO-ABLE LEVEL.<br />
AT ONE OF THE RECENT COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS I PARTICIPATED IN , A VETERAN EDUCATOR GAVE  AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EFFECTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE<br />
FOR THE KIDS SENIORS ARE WHEN THEY COME ONBOARD.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dillon Recall Charade by Ted St. Antoine</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/808/#comment-20411</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted St. Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil:

As you know from my frequent responses in the past, I greatly enjoyed your columns back in your newspaper days. I am sure they are just as good or even better today (maybe even better becasue I think you have an ideal forum). 

BUT I find the columns terribly hard to read off the computer screen in their present format -- and that is the quickest way to get them.

These comments may also be riddled with typos; I can hardly tell what I am writing. 

Your stuff is too good to lose -- plesse make it more legible! 

Warm regards, Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>As you know from my frequent responses in the past, I greatly enjoyed your columns back in your newspaper days. I am sure they are just as good or even better today (maybe even better becasue I think you have an ideal forum). </p>
<p>BUT I find the columns terribly hard to read off the computer screen in their present format -- and that is the quickest way to get them.</p>
<p>These comments may also be riddled with typos; I can hardly tell what I am writing. </p>
<p>Your stuff is too good to lose -- plesse make it more legible! </p>
<p>Warm regards, Ted</p>
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		<title>Comment on Faith Restored by Richard Thibodeau</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/faith-restored/#comment-20410</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Thibodeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DETROIT AND THE "UPERS"-I attended the White HOuse lawn reception for Pope Benedict and in the considerable time we all waited in line to
get through security to reach the white house lawn, I had the chance to speak to someone who worked in DC for a Michigan Upper Peninsula
senator. As someone who knows Detroit well and all of its positives, I inquired if this
person ever had been in Detroit. She said:"Yes,
but only at Detroit Metro airport". We joked about UPERS calling us lower peninsula people-
"Trolls" all in good humor. But I also asked her if she knew of any group in the UP that
helps to arrange fo UPERS to come down and
take a look at Detroit. She said she didn't know of anyone.

Certainly, this is just one isolated experience of just one person, but it strikes me that all of our senators from the UP and
their Detroit "troll colleagues" should be
having some dialogue about encouraging and
facilitating more UPERS to come down, maybe for the first time, and take a look at Michigan's largest city. There has to be a way that someone can help package tours into Detroit that would be enriching for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DETROIT AND THE "UPERS"-I attended the White HOuse lawn reception for Pope Benedict and in the considerable time we all waited in line to<br />
get through security to reach the white house lawn, I had the chance to speak to someone who worked in DC for a Michigan Upper Peninsula<br />
senator. As someone who knows Detroit well and all of its positives, I inquired if this<br />
person ever had been in Detroit. She said:"Yes,<br />
but only at Detroit Metro airport". We joked about UPERS calling us lower peninsula people-<br />
"Trolls" all in good humor. But I also asked her if she knew of any group in the UP that<br />
helps to arrange fo UPERS to come down and<br />
take a look at Detroit. She said she didn't know of anyone.</p>
<p>Certainly, this is just one isolated experience of just one person, but it strikes me that all of our senators from the UP and<br />
their Detroit "troll colleagues" should be<br />
having some dialogue about encouraging and<br />
facilitating more UPERS to come down, maybe for the first time, and take a look at Michigan's largest city. There has to be a way that someone can help package tours into Detroit that would be enriching for everyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by David P. Ball</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/packing-his-bags/#comment-20142</link>
		<dc:creator>David P. Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: Fifth, although Michigan's climate is not superficially appealing to young professionals who seek a Sunbelt lifestyle, people will migrate where good jobs exist. 

I apologize for the typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Fifth, although Michigan's climate is not superficially appealing to young professionals who seek a Sunbelt lifestyle, people will migrate where good jobs exist. </p>
<p>I apologize for the typo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by David P. Ball</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/packing-his-bags/#comment-20141</link>
		<dc:creator>David P. Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently, the writer of "Packing His Bags" endorses a package of middle-class entitlement programs. The tuition subsidies and "universal" health care proposals sound appealing, but they do not address some of the fundamental flaws in Michigan's economy. I offer some alternative proposals. First of all, make Michigan a "right-to-work" state. This will help to overcome the entitlement mentality that has afflicted the state's economy since the Big 3 made a faustian bargain with organized labor during the hayday of the automotive industry. Second, acknowledge that services will play an increasingly dominant role in Michigan's economy, while manufacturing diminishes due to globalization. Third, recognize that technology is not a panacea for all ills, because software engineering and other high tech jobs can be outsourced as easily and profitably as manufacturing jobs. Fourth, recognize that Michigan's greatest blessing is its natural resources, particularly the abundant fresh water of the Great Lakes, which implies that tourism and agriculture should continue to be major components of the state's economy. Fifth, although Michigan's climate is not superficially appealing to young professions who seek a Sunbelt lifestyle, people will migrate where good jobs exist. Jobs can and will be created in Michigan when political, business, and labor leaders overcome their psychological inertia, agree on a realistic vision of the state's future, and craft a credible strategy to move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently, the writer of "Packing His Bags" endorses a package of middle-class entitlement programs. The tuition subsidies and "universal" health care proposals sound appealing, but they do not address some of the fundamental flaws in Michigan's economy. I offer some alternative proposals. First of all, make Michigan a "right-to-work" state. This will help to overcome the entitlement mentality that has afflicted the state's economy since the Big 3 made a faustian bargain with organized labor during the hayday of the automotive industry. Second, acknowledge that services will play an increasingly dominant role in Michigan's economy, while manufacturing diminishes due to globalization. Third, recognize that technology is not a panacea for all ills, because software engineering and other high tech jobs can be outsourced as easily and profitably as manufacturing jobs. Fourth, recognize that Michigan's greatest blessing is its natural resources, particularly the abundant fresh water of the Great Lakes, which implies that tourism and agriculture should continue to be major components of the state's economy. Fifth, although Michigan's climate is not superficially appealing to young professions who seek a Sunbelt lifestyle, people will migrate where good jobs exist. Jobs can and will be created in Michigan when political, business, and labor leaders overcome their psychological inertia, agree on a realistic vision of the state's future, and craft a credible strategy to move forward.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/shackling-all-of-us/#comment-20015</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand your frustration. I do understand it was poor judgement on your daughters part but desperation only promotes desperate acts. Did you know if an inmate housed in a correctional facility inherits money the state will make them pay for their incarceration? If an inmate requests to see a doctor $5 is taken out of their commissary account. Not a big deal to some but most inmates don't even have that in their account and if they do, they save it for food or necessities such as motrin or deoderant. By the way, they could not pay for those two items with $5.

Not to change the subject but another issue I recently learned of; the cost for a title for a moble home increased from $45 to $90 in January. Now, who do you think mostly lives in mobile homes? Not people with six figure incomes, actually I bet most don't make more than $35,000 a year, the majority probably make less. Who thought up that ingenious idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand your frustration. I do understand it was poor judgement on your daughters part but desperation only promotes desperate acts. Did you know if an inmate housed in a correctional facility inherits money the state will make them pay for their incarceration? If an inmate requests to see a doctor $5 is taken out of their commissary account. Not a big deal to some but most inmates don't even have that in their account and if they do, they save it for food or necessities such as motrin or deoderant. By the way, they could not pay for those two items with $5.</p>
<p>Not to change the subject but another issue I recently learned of; the cost for a title for a moble home increased from $45 to $90 in January. Now, who do you think mostly lives in mobile homes? Not people with six figure incomes, actually I bet most don't make more than $35,000 a year, the majority probably make less. Who thought up that ingenious idea?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by Confidential</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confidential</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a daughter who was recently incarcerated for driving on a suspended license.  She had her license suspended because of an unpaid ticket (not having insurance proof when she was pulled over).  However she did have insurance when that happened, but never took the needed time to go and show proof.  She is a single parent and was working, trying to make ends meet, taking her children where they needed to go, and so she did not take the needed time to get this ticket taken care of, which was definitely her own fault. I am not saying this was okay and acknowledge that she should have done what was needed at that time. However now she cannot possibly afford to get herself out of the huge debt to reinstate her driving license.  It would cost her thousands of dollars, which she does not have.  So she drove without having a license because she wanted to see her children who were at brother's home--and the police caught her in route.  I have been taking care of 2 of her three children because of her poverty situation, and she had wanted to be able to spend some time with them.  Each day she stays in this jail costs the jailed person $30 per day.  She had a court appointed attorney, which she will get charged for and will have to pay as well.  Then there are court costs that will need to be paid.  And if she get probation after she is released, that also occurs a cost to be paid.  Plus then she still owes the thousands of dollars to get her license back. So then you tell me how in the world is she ever going to be able to get her license back?  This just sets her up as a repeated offender.  She is in a no-win situation and although it all began with a bad choice of hers not to set things straight with the first ticket issued, now it has snowballed into a horrendous situation in which she cannot see a way out.  Because it happened in Wayne County and they had no room for her there, they took her all the way up to Clair County (Harrison, MI) to serve her sentence.  The system has a way of keeping the poor, underprivileged, and non-violet offenders in the system and so we wonder why our prison system is over crowded?  Reform, while taking a look at getting the non-violent offender out of being incarcerated and back on track as being a productive contributing member of our society should be top priority.  There has to be a better way then now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a daughter who was recently incarcerated for driving on a suspended license.  She had her license suspended because of an unpaid ticket (not having insurance proof when she was pulled over).  However she did have insurance when that happened, but never took the needed time to go and show proof.  She is a single parent and was working, trying to make ends meet, taking her children where they needed to go, and so she did not take the needed time to get this ticket taken care of, which was definitely her own fault. I am not saying this was okay and acknowledge that she should have done what was needed at that time. However now she cannot possibly afford to get herself out of the huge debt to reinstate her driving license.  It would cost her thousands of dollars, which she does not have.  So she drove without having a license because she wanted to see her children who were at brother's home--and the police caught her in route.  I have been taking care of 2 of her three children because of her poverty situation, and she had wanted to be able to spend some time with them.  Each day she stays in this jail costs the jailed person $30 per day.  She had a court appointed attorney, which she will get charged for and will have to pay as well.  Then there are court costs that will need to be paid.  And if she get probation after she is released, that also occurs a cost to be paid.  Plus then she still owes the thousands of dollars to get her license back. So then you tell me how in the world is she ever going to be able to get her license back?  This just sets her up as a repeated offender.  She is in a no-win situation and although it all began with a bad choice of hers not to set things straight with the first ticket issued, now it has snowballed into a horrendous situation in which she cannot see a way out.  Because it happened in Wayne County and they had no room for her there, they took her all the way up to Clair County (Harrison, MI) to serve her sentence.  The system has a way of keeping the poor, underprivileged, and non-violet offenders in the system and so we wonder why our prison system is over crowded?  Reform, while taking a look at getting the non-violent offender out of being incarcerated and back on track as being a productive contributing member of our society should be top priority.  There has to be a better way then now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by Steve Perdue</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/packing-his-bags/#comment-19654</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry this person feels this way.  I think people who really care about Michigan will stay and work with us all to take care of our problems.   We have six adult children and a growing number of grandchildren (7+) and they are all college educated or getting there and went to school in Michigan and all over the country and all chose to start and build careers in Michgan because of what is has to offer and how much better it will be in the near future.   ...and some have temporary employment problems but have turned down job opportunities in sunbelt states, etc.
Water is the future...and our present!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sorry this person feels this way.  I think people who really care about Michigan will stay and work with us all to take care of our problems.   We have six adult children and a growing number of grandchildren (7+) and they are all college educated or getting there and went to school in Michigan and all over the country and all chose to start and build careers in Michgan because of what is has to offer and how much better it will be in the near future.   ...and some have temporary employment problems but have turned down job opportunities in sunbelt states, etc.<br />
Water is the future...and our present!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Indiana Pitch by Fred Akers</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/the-indiana-pitch/#comment-19556</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Akers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am deeply afraid Michigan will not be able to address its economic problems until we have a new Governor. Gov Daniels comes to town and was reasonably low key in his presentation. In fact he has been very successful in bringing tens of thousands of new jobs to Indiana.

In response our Governor's spokesperson goes on about how the Indiana Governor came to town in response to Michigan's highly successful "Upper Hand" campaign. Then she went on about all the great victories Michigan has won for new companies.

Come on, what great victories? She didn't even bother to mention them. If she were to compare Indiana's record to Michigan's she would have been "blown away."

I think it's high time our Governor stopped competing with press releases. I am sick and tired of seeing inflated nonsensical MEDC new jobs claims.

They brag about moving jobs from Livonia to Detroit. (That will help 
Michigan a lot!)

They inflate actual new jobs won by modeling all the spin off jobs. (i.e. They inflate jobs numbers by 1/3 or so and call it science) 

Most recently they announced jobs to be created over the next ten years by a project. (As though anyone can accuratly predict the economy and sccess of a company for ten years) 

And there isn't any point to discussing our Governor's desire to develop a more efficient goverment.

Finally lets compare our Governor's latest "economic development strategy" passing a renewable portfolio standard with Governor Daniel's efforts.

Michigan's renewable resources aren't good enough to exploit for the private market so she wants to create a mandatory build out of renewables in Michigan. An economist would call it a government make work project paid for by you and I.

On the other hand Governor Daniels has declined to support a renewable mandate. The result Indiana now has hundreds of wind turbines being constructed and will catapult past Michigan with no government intrusion. I wonder if he used incentives and encouragement of the private sector?

2 years, 8 months, 19 days to go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am deeply afraid Michigan will not be able to address its economic problems until we have a new Governor. Gov Daniels comes to town and was reasonably low key in his presentation. In fact he has been very successful in bringing tens of thousands of new jobs to Indiana.</p>
<p>In response our Governor's spokesperson goes on about how the Indiana Governor came to town in response to Michigan's highly successful "Upper Hand" campaign. Then she went on about all the great victories Michigan has won for new companies.</p>
<p>Come on, what great victories? She didn't even bother to mention them. If she were to compare Indiana's record to Michigan's she would have been "blown away."</p>
<p>I think it's high time our Governor stopped competing with press releases. I am sick and tired of seeing inflated nonsensical MEDC new jobs claims.</p>
<p>They brag about moving jobs from Livonia to Detroit. (That will help<br />
Michigan a lot!)</p>
<p>They inflate actual new jobs won by modeling all the spin off jobs. (i.e. They inflate jobs numbers by 1/3 or so and call it science) </p>
<p>Most recently they announced jobs to be created over the next ten years by a project. (As though anyone can accuratly predict the economy and sccess of a company for ten years) </p>
<p>And there isn't any point to discussing our Governor's desire to develop a more efficient goverment.</p>
<p>Finally lets compare our Governor's latest "economic development strategy" passing a renewable portfolio standard with Governor Daniel's efforts.</p>
<p>Michigan's renewable resources aren't good enough to exploit for the private market so she wants to create a mandatory build out of renewables in Michigan. An economist would call it a government make work project paid for by you and I.</p>
<p>On the other hand Governor Daniels has declined to support a renewable mandate. The result Indiana now has hundreds of wind turbines being constructed and will catapult past Michigan with no government intrusion. I wonder if he used incentives and encouragement of the private sector?</p>
<p>2 years, 8 months, 19 days to go</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big-Buck Potential of Alternative Energy by Ted Curran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by bobdurivage</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/shackling-all-of-us/#comment-19435</link>
		<dc:creator>bobdurivage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all people in prison for drugs are addicts.  Many are recreational users.  These "offenders" don't need rehabilitation.  They need the drug laws repealed. 
  The best way to reduce the Michigan prison population is to reduce the Michigan population.  Less people- less prisoners.  Less people- less crime.  Less people- less unemployment.  The current population of Michigan(or anywhere) is unsustainable.  Eventually it will come down to clean water. I prefer not to wait until our supply of clean water is nearly gone.  We must restrict the number of births per household. We must not only reduce population growth but we must reverse it.  Snip snip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all people in prison for drugs are addicts.  Many are recreational users.  These "offenders" don't need rehabilitation.  They need the drug laws repealed.<br />
  The best way to reduce the Michigan prison population is to reduce the Michigan population.  Less people- less prisoners.  Less people- less crime.  Less people- less unemployment.  The current population of Michigan(or anywhere) is unsustainable.  Eventually it will come down to clean water. I prefer not to wait until our supply of clean water is nearly gone.  We must restrict the number of births per household. We must not only reduce population growth but we must reverse it.  Snip snip.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/shackling-all-of-us/#comment-19394</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(This is a letter written by an inmate friend of mine.)
  
	I am writing to hopefully bring awareness to the public concerning the lack of judicial awareness in the state of Michigan, along with an extreme lack of knowledge between Michigan courts and the Department of Corrections. 

My name is Amy Hay and I am currently serving a 25 month sentence for prescription fraud at Huron Valley. In layman’s terms I was doctor shopping. I am a non violent offender and my crime didn’t involve a victim.

 At the time of my sentencing I was assured the decision to send me to prison would be in my best interest. I was told I would receive substance treatment, counseling and adequate health care. I was led to believe I would probably be released, with good time, in 11 to 13 months. No one informed me good time did not exist in Michigan, or about Truth in Sentencing. Truth in sentencing means everyone sentenced since 2004 will serve their full minimum sentence, regardless of the crime they committed.

In the year I have been incarcerated I have not received any of these options. My substance abuse issues were never addressed; as I was told they would be. Incarceration in a state prison was clearly not in my best interest; but in the interest of the Court to push me off on the Michigan Department of Corrections and wash their hands of any responsibility or obligations. 

What has actually transpired during this past year of incarceration is appalling. I have not been given any opportunity to properly address my substance abuse issue. I have not received any counseling or rehabilitation due to over crowding, lack of professionals, due to poor budgeting and funding. My family and I were assured by the judge this would be done. To the courts I am just a statistic and to the state I am just another $30,000 or more a year. 

The two major players of the Judicial System have failed me and hundreds others. It seems as though the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing. Instead of the state allowing me to make amends for my wrongs and be a productive member of the community, I am just left here waiting out my time, unemployed and receiving no real treatment for my issues. 

I no longer wish to remain silent and just let time pass me by. The county courts can’t uphold their promises. Then you have Michigan Department of Corrections failing each person who is sentenced. I’m expected to be held accountable for my actions but who is making the court system and the Department of Corrections accountable for theirs? 

I know what I did was wrong. I feel terrible for all the shame I have caused my family. I want help and I want to better myself. It is pathetic how Michigan spends more money per year on the prison system than they do on education. 

Maybe it’s time the judicial system of Michigan be reformed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This is a letter written by an inmate friend of mine.)</p>
<p>	I am writing to hopefully bring awareness to the public concerning the lack of judicial awareness in the state of Michigan, along with an extreme lack of knowledge between Michigan courts and the Department of Corrections. </p>
<p>My name is Amy Hay and I am currently serving a 25 month sentence for prescription fraud at Huron Valley. In layman’s terms I was doctor shopping. I am a non violent offender and my crime didn’t involve a victim.</p>
<p> At the time of my sentencing I was assured the decision to send me to prison would be in my best interest. I was told I would receive substance treatment, counseling and adequate health care. I was led to believe I would probably be released, with good time, in 11 to 13 months. No one informed me good time did not exist in Michigan, or about Truth in Sentencing. Truth in sentencing means everyone sentenced since 2004 will serve their full minimum sentence, regardless of the crime they committed.</p>
<p>In the year I have been incarcerated I have not received any of these options. My substance abuse issues were never addressed; as I was told they would be. Incarceration in a state prison was clearly not in my best interest; but in the interest of the Court to push me off on the Michigan Department of Corrections and wash their hands of any responsibility or obligations. </p>
<p>What has actually transpired during this past year of incarceration is appalling. I have not been given any opportunity to properly address my substance abuse issue. I have not received any counseling or rehabilitation due to over crowding, lack of professionals, due to poor budgeting and funding. My family and I were assured by the judge this would be done. To the courts I am just a statistic and to the state I am just another $30,000 or more a year. </p>
<p>The two major players of the Judicial System have failed me and hundreds others. It seems as though the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing. Instead of the state allowing me to make amends for my wrongs and be a productive member of the community, I am just left here waiting out my time, unemployed and receiving no real treatment for my issues. </p>
<p>I no longer wish to remain silent and just let time pass me by. The county courts can’t uphold their promises. Then you have Michigan Department of Corrections failing each person who is sentenced. I’m expected to be held accountable for my actions but who is making the court system and the Department of Corrections accountable for theirs? </p>
<p>I know what I did was wrong. I feel terrible for all the shame I have caused my family. I want help and I want to better myself. It is pathetic how Michigan spends more money per year on the prison system than they do on education. </p>
<p>Maybe it’s time the judicial system of Michigan be reformed</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/packing-his-bags/#comment-19376</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about some suggestions.
1) toll ways in and out of michigan.
most other states have them around us, and our roads in many places stink.
lower the gas tax, lower the mileage tax for commercial trucking or whatever it is they pay.
toll the incoming and outbound traffic.
Add michigan business rebates to tolls where if they spend $$ in michigan, they get some or all of the toll price off certain purchase amounts and higher.

2) go seriously nuts with state mandatory alternative energy sources using Windfarms and Solar cells, geothermal energy for heat and cooling.
Mandate all state university buildings, all state government buildings and all commerical buildings over a certain acreage to add solar panels to the rooflines and put power back into the grid durin the day when rates are highest.
Add property tax rebates over 3 yrs to any residential addition of solar panels over a certain wattage.
Mandate geothermal energy usage for buildings.
Mandate Vegetable diesel or biodiesel for Michigan refueling stations for commercial fleets with rebates for conversion kits.

A place selling what they call Viesel in Florida for all diesel engines cars, trucks commercial trucking sells conversion kits for 500$ and up for all vehicles and claims identical mileage as 4.10/gallon diesel gives at a cost of $2.50/gallon.

Be the first state to fully separate commercial truck traffic and passenger vehicles using a two tier highway system.
Sure thats expensive, but we're only getting more congested, running out of room for expansion, and costing billions in repairs for the same result.  
Passenger vehicles on top, trucking underneath.
Vehicle insurance and medical insurance would pry love it.  Less crushed cars in big accidents, or pieces flying off killing people, or deer car accidents.  Imagine all the commuter congestion lifted.  How many times have truckers been moving along steady trying to save gas to get stuffed behind some guy going 55 in a 70?  how many times has a truck pulled out in front of 9 cars in the left lane because he wanted to go 1mph faster than the slower truck in front of them, makin a slinky effect of 9 cars going 75 slam on their brakes?

How about massive investment in public transportation?  I would love to see more trains/El-trains/subways etc being used to send people around town and between towns etc.
The perfect experiment for that is a Tri-cities area of Holland/GrandRapids/Muskegon. :)

How about more efficient prison and rehab processes, judgements, programs, sentencing?
How about universal health care or just more efficient coverage and prevention programs?

If the Feds can give back a big cash rebate to taxpayers all on a big loan to boost our economy, Can the state sell bonds to buy up old decrepit used cars, vans, trucks that average less than 14mpg and sell them for a nominal fee to salvage yards for the scrap and recycling, and the way to buy them would be to offer consumers a rebate check on a newer vehicle purchase at a tiered price up to a top amount.  The rebate could be applied to the car price to lower the loan value and payments for the consumer.  

Think of the multiple benefits of a program like that -
A) would get polluting vehicles getting bad mileage off the roads and gone for good.
B) would over a shortened time frame, up the average mileage of michigan's registered vehicle population, as opposed to attrition from usable lifecycle of older cars.
C) would get rid of more vehicles without modern safety equipment such as airbags, ABS, etc.
D) would be a boon to auto insurance companies delivering new policies
E) would help offset costs with new car registrations
F) would obviously be a boon to the used and new car market, of which michigan is currently being pounded from low sales nationwide.
G) could certainly be a quantifiable lessening of gasoline and leakable fluids used statewide over the programs time frame.
That could possibly lower demand and prices.


How about marketing more efficiently our water resources?
Business and citizens live in terribly dry places experiencing once in a century drought conditions like for the last year, Georgia, northern florida, the far west.
Lets market our state as WaterWorld.
"you thirsty"  you want a green lawn and hardly water it each year?  you want cheap municipal water/sewage treatment plants?

theres millions of things that can be done to help our state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about some suggestions.<br />
1) toll ways in and out of michigan.<br />
most other states have them around us, and our roads in many places stink.<br />
lower the gas tax, lower the mileage tax for commercial trucking or whatever it is they pay.<br />
toll the incoming and outbound traffic.<br />
Add michigan business rebates to tolls where if they spend $$ in michigan, they get some or all of the toll price off certain purchase amounts and higher.</p>
<p>2) go seriously nuts with state mandatory alternative energy sources using Windfarms and Solar cells, geothermal energy for heat and cooling.<br />
Mandate all state university buildings, all state government buildings and all commerical buildings over a certain acreage to add solar panels to the rooflines and put power back into the grid durin the day when rates are highest.<br />
Add property tax rebates over 3 yrs to any residential addition of solar panels over a certain wattage.<br />
Mandate geothermal energy usage for buildings.<br />
Mandate Vegetable diesel or biodiesel for Michigan refueling stations for commercial fleets with rebates for conversion kits.</p>
<p>A place selling what they call Viesel in Florida for all diesel engines cars, trucks commercial trucking sells conversion kits for 500$ and up for all vehicles and claims identical mileage as 4.10/gallon diesel gives at a cost of $2.50/gallon.</p>
<p>Be the first state to fully separate commercial truck traffic and passenger vehicles using a two tier highway system.<br />
Sure thats expensive, but we're only getting more congested, running out of room for expansion, and costing billions in repairs for the same result.<br />
Passenger vehicles on top, trucking underneath.<br />
Vehicle insurance and medical insurance would pry love it.  Less crushed cars in big accidents, or pieces flying off killing people, or deer car accidents.  Imagine all the commuter congestion lifted.  How many times have truckers been moving along steady trying to save gas to get stuffed behind some guy going 55 in a 70?  how many times has a truck pulled out in front of 9 cars in the left lane because he wanted to go 1mph faster than the slower truck in front of them, makin a slinky effect of 9 cars going 75 slam on their brakes?</p>
<p>How about massive investment in public transportation?  I would love to see more trains/El-trains/subways etc being used to send people around town and between towns etc.<br />
The perfect experiment for that is a Tri-cities area of Holland/GrandRapids/Muskegon. <img src='http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How about more efficient prison and rehab processes, judgements, programs, sentencing?<br />
How about universal health care or just more efficient coverage and prevention programs?</p>
<p>If the Feds can give back a big cash rebate to taxpayers all on a big loan to boost our economy, Can the state sell bonds to buy up old decrepit used cars, vans, trucks that average less than 14mpg and sell them for a nominal fee to salvage yards for the scrap and recycling, and the way to buy them would be to offer consumers a rebate check on a newer vehicle purchase at a tiered price up to a top amount.  The rebate could be applied to the car price to lower the loan value and payments for the consumer.  </p>
<p>Think of the multiple benefits of a program like that -<br />
A) would get polluting vehicles getting bad mileage off the roads and gone for good.<br />
B) would over a shortened time frame, up the average mileage of michigan's registered vehicle population, as opposed to attrition from usable lifecycle of older cars.<br />
C) would get rid of more vehicles without modern safety equipment such as airbags, ABS, etc.<br />
D) would be a boon to auto insurance companies delivering new policies<br />
E) would help offset costs with new car registrations<br />
F) would obviously be a boon to the used and new car market, of which michigan is currently being pounded from low sales nationwide.<br />
G) could certainly be a quantifiable lessening of gasoline and leakable fluids used statewide over the programs time frame.<br />
That could possibly lower demand and prices.</p>
<p>How about marketing more efficiently our water resources?<br />
Business and citizens live in terribly dry places experiencing once in a century drought conditions like for the last year, Georgia, northern florida, the far west.<br />
Lets market our state as WaterWorld.<br />
"you thirsty"  you want a green lawn and hardly water it each year?  you want cheap municipal water/sewage treatment plants?</p>
<p>theres millions of things that can be done to help our state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/packing-his-bags/#comment-19366</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John this writer is totally correct in everything he said.
Of course there is no way for us to be able to compete with the hot sunny climates for the vast majority of kids. - They see spring break fun and partying, and night life and warm summer enjoyment all year round in other states and Michigan can only compete by offering other programs and ideas.  
And we cant stop either.  No resting on laurels.  Because if we get some ideas in place that work, other states will follow suit and we'll need to 1up them each time.

The competition for college kids is most easily noticeable just watching college sports recruiting.   Florida, Texas, Arizona, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia and California - Routinely keep their own recruits, and attract from cold weather climates, and most of them have no better programs or colleges than the biggest and best in the cold like Notre Dame, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio state, Penn state, MIchigan etc.  
Another thing is pay, many michigan employers refuse to up their payscales because they tell people, its cheap to live here.
Well it may still be inexpensive to find decent housing yet in comparison to the coasts, but cars, gas, utilities and food are just as expensive if not worse here than other states now.  It wasnt that way 7 yrs ago but since then its gotten really tough for most families in this state to survive.


We should do some radical things.  or face ghost towns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John this writer is totally correct in everything he said.<br />
Of course there is no way for us to be able to compete with the hot sunny climates for the vast majority of kids. - They see spring break fun and partying, and night life and warm summer enjoyment all year round in other states and Michigan can only compete by offering other programs and ideas.<br />
And we cant stop either.  No resting on laurels.  Because if we get some ideas in place that work, other states will follow suit and we'll need to 1up them each time.</p>
<p>The competition for college kids is most easily noticeable just watching college sports recruiting.   Florida, Texas, Arizona, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia and California - Routinely keep their own recruits, and attract from cold weather climates, and most of them have no better programs or colleges than the biggest and best in the cold like Notre Dame, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio state, Penn state, MIchigan etc.<br />
Another thing is pay, many michigan employers refuse to up their payscales because they tell people, its cheap to live here.<br />
Well it may still be inexpensive to find decent housing yet in comparison to the coasts, but cars, gas, utilities and food are just as expensive if not worse here than other states now.  It wasnt that way 7 yrs ago but since then its gotten really tough for most families in this state to survive.</p>
<p>We should do some radical things.  or face ghost towns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packing His Bags? by Kathy Backus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Backus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following our round 2 session of Community Conversation in Mt. Pleasant earlier this week, I find the thoughts shared in "Packing His Bags" post, highlighting ways to make Michigan a really attractive place to live, included some particularly good ideas. Now, how to make the rubber meet the road &#38; transform ideas into real programs? What are steps to be followed to create Michigan Promise and a Michigan masters of science and technology program?? Seems these would indeed be attractive options that ought to prompt people to choose to come or stay in Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following our round 2 session of Community Conversation in Mt. Pleasant earlier this week, I find the thoughts shared in "Packing His Bags" post, highlighting ways to make Michigan a really attractive place to live, included some particularly good ideas. Now, how to make the rubber meet the road &amp; transform ideas into real programs? What are steps to be followed to create Michigan Promise and a Michigan masters of science and technology program?? Seems these would indeed be attractive options that ought to prompt people to choose to come or stay in Michigan.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by Jeffrey Poling</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/shackling-all-of-us/#comment-19364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Poling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must eliminate harsh mandatory sentences for minor, non violent crimes. A person with a prison record is "untouchable" when they seek employment and often has no recourse other than a life of crime for survival.
In the deep south, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, they still use chain gangs.  Give the minor offenders a choice; Work on a chain gang cleaning up the filth and litter along our highways and complete your sentence with no record of any kind OR go to prison and receive a prison record that will stay with them for life.  This has to be a win win solution; Young, first time offenders would receive a just but limited punishment.  They would not be exposed to career criminals and our highways and/or urban landscape (as Richard Thibodeau suggested) would be cleaned up at minimal expense to the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must eliminate harsh mandatory sentences for minor, non violent crimes. A person with a prison record is "untouchable" when they seek employment and often has no recourse other than a life of crime for survival.<br />
In the deep south, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, they still use chain gangs.  Give the minor offenders a choice; Work on a chain gang cleaning up the filth and litter along our highways and complete your sentence with no record of any kind OR go to prison and receive a prison record that will stay with them for life.  This has to be a win win solution; Young, first time offenders would receive a just but limited punishment.  They would not be exposed to career criminals and our highways and/or urban landscape (as Richard Thibodeau suggested) would be cleaned up at minimal expense to the state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shackling All of Us by Conqueress</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/shackling-all-of-us/#comment-19361</link>
		<dc:creator>Conqueress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prison situation Michigan has is not unique to Michigan. The less than a decade of 500% plus prison increase nationally is backrupting many state budgets. These symptoms illuminate a cry for wholeness. Consider Mother Teresa's words, "The real poverty is in the West." Ultimately as a community we reap what we sow - so sow value. "Where there is great love there are always miracles." Willa Cather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prison situation Michigan has is not unique to Michigan. The less than a decade of 500% plus prison increase nationally is backrupting many state budgets. These symptoms illuminate a cry for wholeness. Consider Mother Teresa's words, "The real poverty is in the West." Ultimately as a community we reap what we sow - so sow value. "Where there is great love there are always miracles." Willa Cather</p>
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		<title>Comment on When MI was Silicon Valley by Steve Wei</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/when-mi-was-silicon-valley/#comment-19360</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regard to the 'labor impacts' mentioned above, one point to consider is that 100 yrs ago, unions were founded for the purpose of protecting employees(poor people) from getting more than taken advantage of by big business.
Construction/manufacturing/mining/hard labor.. most of these companies had many deaths, dismemberments, ailments, and all with low low wages barely able to subsist.  Families, widows, children couldnt get compensation or assistance with the father/husband was killed or maimed for unsafe working conditions while earning a desperately low wage, all while makin many of the Millionaires and Billionaires of the "romantic old times".

Now Ford was an exception, he actually realized he could get better productivity by reducing working hours and raising pay for his people.  And he was right.

However, unions had to be formed in most places because of the rampant and still prevalent greed of those 'motivated' CEOs, that today are becoming a relic and dinosaur only because we now have laws and regulations in place protecting workers.

But guess what, now that most of America is no longer desperate for a job paying $1 /hr, those big companies are happily and gleefully jumping ship to desperate 3rd world nations where they can do whatever they please.  Like Mexico and Electrolux.  1.53 /hour? ok, keep selling us those appliances for the same price or higher now that your paying 5% of what you used to pay in labor and benefits.

I used to work for a Technology company in Grand haven in the 90s.  As we were laying people off and building a plant in China, there were 3000 men waiting in line to get one of the 40 jobs our company was adding at $1/hr, for 12 hours a day 6 days a week.
no OT, no benefits, no security, no anything.


I honestly believe right now that there is CLEAR proof, that any business that employs unskilled labor will try to pay the rock bottom limit for their jobs no matter what that limit is.
If its 5.65/hr at the minimum wage, then thats what they'll pay.  If we removed labor protections, then they'd be offereing $2 or whatever they can get away with.

What do people expect workers to do in this country when business w