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		<title>By: The Center for Michigan &#187; Ding-Dong, The Pig Is Dead</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-35134</link>
		<dc:creator>The Center for Michigan &#187; Ding-Dong, The Pig Is Dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the time, leaders of the Center for Michigan decried Drolet's recall threats as a form of blackmail that hindered legislators' already frayed ability to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ambulance driver</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-1546</link>
		<dc:creator>ambulance driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I'm over-educated, over-qualified, over-50 female and jobless. I do not blame this Governor for this. It's time to act."

I agree with you in part, it IS time to act. We need a republican majority to make decisions to reform welfare and medicare/medicaid. We do not need a bleeding heart government that says nothing is your fault and enables able bodied people a free ride on the backs of those that work.

As for you, you've had fifty years to come up with a back up plan just in case you were to become unemployed. maybe you should have diversified your education</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I'm over-educated, over-qualified, over-50 female and jobless. I do not blame this Governor for this. It's time to act."</p>
<p>I agree with you in part, it IS time to act. We need a republican majority to make decisions to reform welfare and medicare/medicaid. We do not need a bleeding heart government that says nothing is your fault and enables able bodied people a free ride on the backs of those that work.</p>
<p>As for you, you've had fifty years to come up with a back up plan just in case you were to become unemployed. maybe you should have diversified your education</p>
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		<title>By: ambulance driver</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-1545</link>
		<dc:creator>ambulance driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recall law itself only provides for recall for "conduct"–which clearly a vote is not. What kind of a law would permit the recall/removal of someone for doing his job?

should a legislater vote on a bill knowing that bill would cause harm, in this case financial harm, or otherwise impede the pursuit of happiness to the citizens- that legislater has voted irresponsibly when other avenues for balancing the budget are available. that legislater has failed to act in the best interest of the people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recall law itself only provides for recall for "conduct"–which clearly a vote is not. What kind of a law would permit the recall/removal of someone for doing his job?</p>
<p>should a legislater vote on a bill knowing that bill would cause harm, in this case financial harm, or otherwise impede the pursuit of happiness to the citizens- that legislater has voted irresponsibly when other avenues for balancing the budget are available. that legislater has failed to act in the best interest of the people</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Klumpp</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Klumpp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Granholm was relected is beyond me.  She did terrible her first term, but somehow Michigan reinstated her.  There was a viable alternative in Devos; however, most people thought he was too much "business".  I laugh at that now since it is the Michigan business economy that is struggling.  That struggle is also affecting tax revenues.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize the connection between the two.  

We need a Governor and legislatures who actually understand "business".  Once this happens you will see an increase in business, jobs, quality of life, pay, and thus tax revenues to support government programs. 

All Michiganders are tightening their belts during this time.  The government itself needs to do the same and so far I haven't seen it.  Instead of seen increased spending and government size.  And people wonder why there's a shortfall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Granholm was relected is beyond me.  She did terrible her first term, but somehow Michigan reinstated her.  There was a viable alternative in Devos; however, most people thought he was too much "business".  I laugh at that now since it is the Michigan business economy that is struggling.  That struggle is also affecting tax revenues.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize the connection between the two.  </p>
<p>We need a Governor and legislatures who actually understand "business".  Once this happens you will see an increase in business, jobs, quality of life, pay, and thus tax revenues to support government programs. </p>
<p>All Michiganders are tightening their belts during this time.  The government itself needs to do the same and so far I haven't seen it.  Instead of seen increased spending and government size.  And people wonder why there's a shortfall?</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara M. Skidmore</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara M. Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE, PLEASE !!!
Do you really think a governor of a state has anything to do with the national economy, the poor decisions of an industry or the constipation of the state legislature ? When all the funds have been robbed, the spiral put in place in a downward mode and your only hope is to try to communicate the reality, I guess I would want a person like Granholm to do this for me. 

The Feds have abandoned Michigan, won't talk to us and we now must fight for ourselves.Our State went through a massive brain drain in the late 1970's, somehow got through the 1980's with thinking and doing, sucked our economy dry during the prosperous 1990's and now expect a money miracle. It's time to create. 

I'm over-educated, over-qualified, over-50 female and jobless. I do not blame this Governor for this. It's time to act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE, PLEASE !!!<br />
Do you really think a governor of a state has anything to do with the national economy, the poor decisions of an industry or the constipation of the state legislature ? When all the funds have been robbed, the spiral put in place in a downward mode and your only hope is to try to communicate the reality, I guess I would want a person like Granholm to do this for me. </p>
<p>The Feds have abandoned Michigan, won't talk to us and we now must fight for ourselves.Our State went through a massive brain drain in the late 1970's, somehow got through the 1980's with thinking and doing, sucked our economy dry during the prosperous 1990's and now expect a money miracle. It's time to create. </p>
<p>I'm over-educated, over-qualified, over-50 female and jobless. I do not blame this Governor for this. It's time to act.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it even LEGAL to attempt to recall a legislator for casting a legal vote on the floor of the Legislature in session? The state constitution provides immunity for members' speech in the legislature and provides that  members shall "not be questioned in any other place" for casting a vote.

 The recall law itself only provides for recall for "conduct"--which clearly a vote is not. What kind of a law would permit the recall/removal of someone for doing his job?

 You can no more recall a legislator for casting a legal vote than you can recall him for changing his religion. Could a  legislator from a Christian conservative district be recalled because he converted to Isalm in mid-term? 

 Legislators have rights too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it even LEGAL to attempt to recall a legislator for casting a legal vote on the floor of the Legislature in session? The state constitution provides immunity for members' speech in the legislature and provides that  members shall "not be questioned in any other place" for casting a vote.</p>
<p> The recall law itself only provides for recall for "conduct"--which clearly a vote is not. What kind of a law would permit the recall/removal of someone for doing his job?</p>
<p> You can no more recall a legislator for casting a legal vote than you can recall him for changing his religion. Could a  legislator from a Christian conservative district be recalled because he converted to Isalm in mid-term? </p>
<p> Legislators have rights too.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Tomczyk</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Tomczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As said by a man who knew that he had no altunitive.  LET's Roll.  This tax is unconstitutional.  And like the city of Detroit. Michigan is in it's state of Decline.  To the people of Michigan.  What are you waiting for.  The Governor is spending us in to Depression.  For the Muslums and the other illagle allians.  Health care.  and for the Schools and the 25 year old clildern all going to hell in a hand basket.  She wants more money and dosen't care.  Send the Canandan goose back to Cananda.  The last voters that told me she deservers a another 4 years.  You got it and it will distroy us.  RECALL NOW  WHERE DO I SIGN.  WHO'S WITH ME?  lET' BRING mICHIGAN BACK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As said by a man who knew that he had no altunitive.  LET's Roll.  This tax is unconstitutional.  And like the city of Detroit. Michigan is in it's state of Decline.  To the people of Michigan.  What are you waiting for.  The Governor is spending us in to Depression.  For the Muslums and the other illagle allians.  Health care.  and for the Schools and the 25 year old clildern all going to hell in a hand basket.  She wants more money and dosen't care.  Send the Canandan goose back to Cananda.  The last voters that told me she deservers a another 4 years.  You got it and it will distroy us.  RECALL NOW  WHERE DO I SIGN.  WHO'S WITH ME?  lET' BRING mICHIGAN BACK.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recalls aren't going to change what led this state up to this point.  One of the most irresponsible moves of the previous legislature was to remove the SBT WITHOUT HAVING A REPLACEMENT.  How many people quit their jobs without having another?  That's $1billion there.  That would've taken a huuuge load off of this mess!  If you remove a source of revenue, (and many people irresponsibly pushed for this without having a replacement), in a state that's already hurting - why be surprised that there's a revenue shortfall?  The tax should have been slowly removed while budgets adjusted - any accountant would tell you that.  It was irresponsible and selfish of those who pushed for it without taking the large budget picture into account!  

I also work for the big 3 - grew up in the big 3 - they helped to tank this state also - notice that those who run the big 3 (and most of the other corporations in this state), are not hurting for money - just their workers.  Granholm didn't make their deicisions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recalls aren't going to change what led this state up to this point.  One of the most irresponsible moves of the previous legislature was to remove the SBT WITHOUT HAVING A REPLACEMENT.  How many people quit their jobs without having another?  That's $1billion there.  That would've taken a huuuge load off of this mess!  If you remove a source of revenue, (and many people irresponsibly pushed for this without having a replacement), in a state that's already hurting - why be surprised that there's a revenue shortfall?  The tax should have been slowly removed while budgets adjusted - any accountant would tell you that.  It was irresponsible and selfish of those who pushed for it without taking the large budget picture into account!  </p>
<p>I also work for the big 3 - grew up in the big 3 - they helped to tank this state also - notice that those who run the big 3 (and most of the other corporations in this state), are not hurting for money - just their workers.  Granholm didn't make their deicisions!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Granholm was elected because there were not very good candidates to choose from.  Secondly, taxes should be increased when the economy is doing well. Citizens have made it clear that tax increases are not acceptable. We need government reform first. After all legislators pay what the rest of us pay (into taxes, healthcare etc) and take pay cuts as most of Michigan's citizens have, then we can discuss tax increases. Until those steps have been taken, increasing tax will NOT resolve the wasteful government spending. It will not fix the lack of budget we currently have. As the old saying goes, "the more money you have, the more money you spend".  I am in favor of recalling all participants of this decision to increase taxes, this is a crucial time for MY state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Granholm was elected because there were not very good candidates to choose from.  Secondly, taxes should be increased when the economy is doing well. Citizens have made it clear that tax increases are not acceptable. We need government reform first. After all legislators pay what the rest of us pay (into taxes, healthcare etc) and take pay cuts as most of Michigan's citizens have, then we can discuss tax increases. Until those steps have been taken, increasing tax will NOT resolve the wasteful government spending. It will not fix the lack of budget we currently have. As the old saying goes, "the more money you have, the more money you spend".  I am in favor of recalling all participants of this decision to increase taxes, this is a crucial time for MY state.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will sign if there is an attempt to recall that con-artist...  How did she get reelected?  She makes me sick with her latset "Governor Granholm brought the Democrats and Replublicans together" Crap.  Michigan is in a sorry state of affairs, and I'm not sure I'll be able to stick around much longer, I've been taxed way to much, and now more...  Lets start with her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will sign if there is an attempt to recall that con-artist...  How did she get reelected?  She makes me sick with her latset "Governor Granholm brought the Democrats and Replublicans together" Crap.  Michigan is in a sorry state of affairs, and I'm not sure I'll be able to stick around much longer, I've been taxed way to much, and now more...  Lets start with her.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all for Recalling, however I think we need to start at the top, and RECALL GRANHOLM. After that, all else will fall into place.  For it is Granholm that is suppose to be looking out for MICHIGANS best interests first and foremost. I havent seen her do that.And for the life of me I do not know how she got re-elected! Where do we start? and when do we start this recall. As nobody elected seems to be looking out for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for Recalling, however I think we need to start at the top, and RECALL GRANHOLM. After that, all else will fall into place.  For it is Granholm that is suppose to be looking out for MICHIGANS best interests first and foremost. I havent seen her do that.And for the life of me I do not know how she got re-elected! Where do we start? and when do we start this recall. As nobody elected seems to be looking out for us.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a vast majority of the citizens saying no to more taxes, the government chose to turn their noses up and heads away and do it anyway. Representatives are supposed to not just take what the vast majority of their district says to heart, but to lansing. They have done exactly the opposite. Can anyone say "no taxation without adequate representation???" I for one say, lets have a tea party and see if they try to kill their own citizens. Boycott the government, in everyway you can. They will feel that pince. But first, lets recall that granholm crook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a vast majority of the citizens saying no to more taxes, the government chose to turn their noses up and heads away and do it anyway. Representatives are supposed to not just take what the vast majority of their district says to heart, but to lansing. They have done exactly the opposite. Can anyone say "no taxation without adequate representation???" I for one say, lets have a tea party and see if they try to kill their own citizens. Boycott the government, in everyway you can. They will feel that pince. But first, lets recall that granholm crook.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do I go to sign the recall? I didn't vote for these idiots, now I'm "blown away". Get Granholm first she stinks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I go to sign the recall? I didn't vote for these idiots, now I'm "blown away". Get Granholm first she stinks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thecenterformichigan.net/blog/center-decries-recall-threats/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now that a "partial" if not a full shutdown of the Michigan government is a reality, the question of recall is relevant.  The leaders of the parties and even the Governor have not acted in the public best interest.  Regardless if you favor tax increases or not there comes a point in time that you absolutely must put politics aside and be the public servant that you were elected to be, and act in the interest of the people.  I now support a recall for the leaders of the House and Senate, the Governor and the committee in charge of resolving the budget problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that a "partial" if not a full shutdown of the Michigan government is a reality, the question of recall is relevant.  The leaders of the parties and even the Governor have not acted in the public best interest.  Regardless if you favor tax increases or not there comes a point in time that you absolutely must put politics aside and be the public servant that you were elected to be, and act in the interest of the people.  I now support a recall for the leaders of the House and Senate, the Governor and the committee in charge of resolving the budget problem.</p>
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